Any sound meter recommendations?

General silencer discussion. If you want to talk about a specific silenced rifle or pistol, it is best to do that in the rifle or pistol section for that brand.

All NFA laws apply.

Moderators: mpallett, renegade, bakerjw

User avatar
unclemoak
Silent Operator
Posts: 58
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:19 am
Location: NE Wisconsin

Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by unclemoak » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:54 am

I'm looking to start some somewhat formal testing for a form 1 project and was wondering if there's any suggested sound meters to use? Any tips on brands and/or features would be appreciated.

I didn't really have a set budget, but would like to stay under $750.
Engineer looking for a new job, PM me

User avatar
Faulkner
Member
Posts: 20
Joined: Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:06 pm

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by Faulkner » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:22 pm

There are actually a couple of good iPhone apps for sound metering.
- change it back -

User avatar
doubloon
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 11901
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:02 am
Location: Houston-ish

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by doubloon » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:25 pm

That's about what $750 will get you

Try this search, you might be able to afford the required accessories for <$750

https://www.google.com/search?q=Bruel+% ... Model+2209
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDtd2jNIwAU MUSAFAR!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrOL-ydFMI This is Water DavidW
Complete Form 1s http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=79895

User avatar
Artful
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 4392
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:47 pm
Location: Phx,AZ
Contact:

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by Artful » Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:05 am

Faulkner wrote:There are actually a couple of good iPhone apps for sound metering.
I have yet to see a "GOOD" app for sound metering :roll:
"Trying to tax yourself into prosperity is like standing in a bucket and trying to pick yourself up by the handle." - Winston Churchill

66427vette
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 1873
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:14 pm

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by 66427vette » Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:10 am

Add a zero or two or it is just a toy.

User avatar
curtistactical
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 468
Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:22 am

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by curtistactical » Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:37 am

You can find used Larson Davis 800b's for under $1000 but the mic will cost you $1200. The best thing to do is rent one, unless you are either a manufacturer or just have plenty of money buying a meter is not reasonable. You will not get an accurate reading with anything less than this set-up. I am not sure on the fee for rental but there are quite a few places that do it.
Joseph Jones
Curtis Tactical
07/02

User avatar
unclemoak
Silent Operator
Posts: 58
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:19 am
Location: NE Wisconsin

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by unclemoak » Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:10 am

curtistactical wrote:You can find used Larson Davis 800b's for under $1000 but the mic will cost you $1200. The best thing to do is rent one, unless you are either a manufacturer or just have plenty of money buying a meter is not reasonable. You will not get an accurate reading with anything less than this set-up. I am not sure on the fee for rental but there are quite a few places that do it.

Like this?

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 18&alt=web
Engineer looking for a new job, PM me

User avatar
curtistactical
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 468
Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:22 am

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by curtistactical » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:35 am

unclemoak wrote:
curtistactical wrote:You can find used Larson Davis 800b's for under $1000 but the mic will cost you $1200. The best thing to do is rent one, unless you are either a manufacturer or just have plenty of money buying a meter is not reasonable. You will not get an accurate reading with anything less than this set-up. I am not sure on the fee for rental but there are quite a few places that do it.

Like this?

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 18&alt=web
Yes, you would just need a different mic. That is the meter I use, you will need a 2530 mic and your good to go.
Joseph Jones
Curtis Tactical
07/02

User avatar
doubloon
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 11901
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:02 am
Location: Houston-ish

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by doubloon » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:50 am

curtistactical wrote:...
Yes, you would just need a different mic. That is the meter I use, you will need a 2530 mic and your good to go.
Calibrator recommended?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDtd2jNIwAU MUSAFAR!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrOL-ydFMI This is Water DavidW
Complete Form 1s http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=79895

User avatar
Capt. Link.
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 2519
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:05 pm
Location: USA.

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by Capt. Link. » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:53 am

Calibrator required or the readings are useless.
The only reason after 243 years the government now wants to disarm you is they intend to do something you would shoot them for!

User avatar
Bendersquint
Industry Professional
Posts: 11359
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:19 pm
Location: North Carolina
Contact:

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by Bendersquint » Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:30 am

Would also need to send it to a service center to be sure that it even worked right.

Would be bad to invest the money in a new mic and calibrator and THINK its working only only to find out it isn't working right.

Always have used equipment checked out. For that price I guarantee they aren't guaranteeing its condition beyond used.

saigatechusa
Silent Operator
Posts: 63
Joined: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:29 am

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by saigatechusa » Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:45 pm

B&K 3052 with 2670 1/4" mic

calibration here at B&K norcross Ga. was 1200.00 :shock:

User avatar
doubloon
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 11901
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:02 am
Location: Houston-ish

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by doubloon » Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:04 pm

Let us know how it works out if you order it.

I would be thrilled to see accurate metering for a sub $1000 investment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDtd2jNIwAU MUSAFAR!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrOL-ydFMI This is Water DavidW
Complete Form 1s http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=79895

User avatar
unclemoak
Silent Operator
Posts: 58
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:19 am
Location: NE Wisconsin

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by unclemoak » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:13 pm

Well that wasn't cheap. Ended up getting it for $810, but I still will need a Mic and calibrator to go with it.
Engineer looking for a new job, PM me

User avatar
Bendersquint
Industry Professional
Posts: 11359
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:19 pm
Location: North Carolina
Contact:

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by Bendersquint » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:21 pm

unclemoak wrote:Well that wasn't cheap. Ended up getting it for $810, but I still will need a Mic and calibrator to go with it.
Ouch!

User avatar
doubloon
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 11901
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:02 am
Location: Houston-ish

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by doubloon » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:19 pm

hopes ... dashed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDtd2jNIwAU MUSAFAR!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrOL-ydFMI This is Water DavidW
Complete Form 1s http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=79895

User avatar
unclemoak
Silent Operator
Posts: 58
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:19 am
Location: NE Wisconsin

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by unclemoak » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:39 pm

Bendersquint wrote:
unclemoak wrote:Well that wasn't cheap. Ended up getting it for $810, but I still will need a Mic and calibrator to go with it.
Ouch!

After talking to a Larson Davis engineer this afternoon, it seems the 2540 mic it comes with will work for the .22 I'm metering, but the 2530 would be better suited for larger calibers.

I asked about calibrators and was told a calibrator is more for sport checking the mic on location, but Larson themselves can inspect and calibrate the 800b for about $250.
Engineer looking for a new job, PM me

User avatar
Bendersquint
Industry Professional
Posts: 11359
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:19 pm
Location: North Carolina
Contact:

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by Bendersquint » Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:01 pm

unclemoak wrote:
Bendersquint wrote:
unclemoak wrote:Well that wasn't cheap. Ended up getting it for $810, but I still will need a Mic and calibrator to go with it.
Ouch!

After talking to a Larson Davis engineer this afternoon, it seems the 2540 mic it comes with will work for the .22 I'm metering, but the 2530 would be better suited for larger calibers.

I asked about calibrators and was told a calibrator is more for sport checking the mic on location, but Larson themselves can inspect and calibrate the 800b for about $250.
If you are trying to do mil spec testing why not do it right and get a calibrator?

User avatar
unclemoak
Silent Operator
Posts: 58
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:19 am
Location: NE Wisconsin

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by unclemoak » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:11 pm


If you are trying to do mil spec testing why not do it right and get a calibrator?

I'll likely end up finding one. Just commenting on what Larson told me.
Engineer looking for a new job, PM me

User avatar
Bendersquint
Industry Professional
Posts: 11359
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:19 pm
Location: North Carolina
Contact:

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by Bendersquint » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:57 pm

unclemoak wrote:

If you are trying to do mil spec testing why not do it right and get a calibrator?

I'll likely end up finding one. Just commenting on what Larson told me.
Will to bet Larson doesn't even know what mil spec testing is, I know B&K doesn't.

saigatechusa
Silent Operator
Posts: 63
Joined: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:29 am

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by saigatechusa » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:46 pm

B&K made the meter 20 years ago that AAC still uses

B&K doesn't do testing of firearms

User avatar
Bendersquint
Industry Professional
Posts: 11359
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:19 pm
Location: North Carolina
Contact:

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by Bendersquint » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:52 pm

saigatechusa wrote:B&K made the meter 20 years ago that AAC still uses

B&K doesn't do testing of firearms
Neither does Larson Davis, nor does anyone make a meter nowadays that will perform mil spec testing aside from B&K2209 and LD800B.

User avatar
JasonM
Silent But Deadly
Posts: 1483
Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:51 pm
Location: NoVA
Contact:

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by JasonM » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:47 am

saigatechusa wrote:B&K made the meter 20 years ago that AAC still uses

B&K doesn't do testing of firearms
No, AAC moved on to a new system years ago.
Kick Ass Design
ten:pm media
www.facebook.com/VisualGravy

User avatar
Josh-PTP
New Member
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:38 pm
Location: Western KY

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by Josh-PTP » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:41 pm

What about a B&K Model 2230??

Like This One??

eBay #151441759055

Thanks
Josh
-----
Thanks
Josh F.

User avatar
Bendersquint
Industry Professional
Posts: 11359
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:19 pm
Location: North Carolina
Contact:

Re: Any sound meter recommendations?

Post by Bendersquint » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:03 pm

Josh-PTP wrote:What about a B&K Model 2230??

Like This One??

eBay #151441759055

Thanks
Josh
No that would not be accurate, not fast enough rise.

Post Reply