what are the new timelines?

[AkGun&ammo]

what are the new timelines?

Form 3 and then to Form 4...

I have heard anything from 2 months to well over a year...

thanks for any clarification,
Chris

[birdengineer]

I was doing some un-scientific analysis of the nfatracker.com spreadsheet and it looks like form3 &form 4's are running about 4 months, forms submitted in Oct are just being approved and receiving stamps. Form 1 eforms to a trust are running 14-35 days, if the data on nfatracker is at all real, I know it's self reported, but you'd like to think it's real. Wish they'd get the eform for form 4's up again.

[doubloon]

Here's a wheel so nobody has to keep reinventing it.

http://www.silencershop.com/support/atf-wait-times/


Submission Type .................... Receiving Approvals Submitted On
Electronic Form 4: .................. N/A through N/A
Paper TRUST Form 4: ............ 10/13/2014 through 12/17/2014
Paper CORPORATE Form 4: . 10/10/2014 through 11/4/2014
Paper INDIVIDUAL Form 4: .... 1/25/2014 through 7/11/2014
Electronic Form 3: ................... N/A through N/A
Paper Form 3: ......................... 12/23/2014 through 1/21/2015

[AkGun&ammo]

dang, looks like Form 4's taking 7 to 13 monthes...

and form 3's two weeks to a month.

which fits in with what I have been told.

doubloon, thanks for posting that link.

Chris

[quiettime]

Purchased my first can on 12/13/14.

ATF cashed my check 2/9/15.

Got phone call from my local dealer that can had arrived from Silencer Shop on 2/13/14, so I guess that means the Form 3 took about 6 weeks give or take, HTH

[beye]

We're seeing 3-4 months consistently on Form 4s.

[Dieseljay]

We're seeing 3-4 months consistently on Form 4s.

on trusts.
Individual is still around 5-7.

[RJT]

We're seeing 3-4 months consistently on Form 4s.

on trusts.
Individual is still around 5-7.

Another great reason to use a trust.

[beye]

We're seeing 3-4 months consistently on Form 4s.

on trusts.
Individual is still around 5-7.

Correct, we only do 1 individual to about 250 trust submissions.

[MSC182]

Does anybody know what the times are for paper Form 1s?

[GST]

I'm a new 07/02 trying to get my business going and I ordered and paid for a suppressor from a distributor in early December. This was an order for a shop suppressor to use for sales purposes. I kept emailing them for a copy of the Form 3 with no responses. They finally sent me a copy last week after many calls and messages asking for it. Once I got it, I find out that the form 3 wasn't filled out until 7 weeks after the order. When I ordered it, I was told that they had plenty of that particular suppressor in stock, so that shouldn't have been the issue. If it was, They should have informed me when I ordered. So it has now been FOUR weeks since the Form 3 was filled out and I called the NFA branch this morning to see if the serial number was in the system yet and I was told that it's not. I don't know what's going on... This is my first order with this company and it will probably be my last. I called today and was told that they would check into it and call me back but I still have not heard back. If I can get back in touch with them, maybe I should tell them to cancel it since it's not in the system yet, and send me a refund. I doubt I would get repeat business if this suppressor was for a customer. I won't be prepaying before Form 3 clears again...

I won't mention the distributor unless I can't get answers from them. I know this is my first post on here so some may think that I am just busting balls, but it is what it is.

[Tony M.]

I won't be prepaying before Form 3 clears again...

I understand your frustration, but good luck with that.

Finding people in the industry with good reputations is important.

[sillycon]

As an FYI, I believe RSR doesn't require payment until the F3 clears. This information is coming from the 01/03 I refer NFA transfers to (I'm only an 07 with no SOT).

That may only apply if you have credit terms established with them, however.

[beye]

I'm a new 07/02 trying to get my business going and I ordered and paid for a suppressor from a distributor in early December. This was an order for a shop suppressor to use for sales purposes. I kept emailing them for a copy of the Form 3 with no responses. They finally sent me a copy last week after many calls and messages asking for it. Once I got it, I find out that the form 3 wasn't filled out until 7 weeks after the order. When I ordered it, I was told that they had plenty of that particular suppressor in stock, so that shouldn't have been the issue. If it was, They should have informed me when I ordered. So it has now been FOUR weeks since the Form 3 was filled out and I called the NFA branch this morning to see if the serial number was in the system yet and I was told that it's not. I don't know what's going on... This is my first order with this company and it will probably be my last. I called today and was told that they would check into it and call me back but I still have not heard back. If I can get back in touch with them, maybe I should tell them to cancel it since it's not in the system yet, and send me a refund. I doubt I would get repeat business if this suppressor was for a customer. I won't be prepaying before Form 3 clears again...

I won't mention the distributor unless I can't get answers from them. I know this is my first post on here so some may think that I am just busting balls, but it is what it is.

Sorry to hear about that, that's extremely frustrating. We are a distributor as well and might be able to get you what you need. I file F3s & 4s same day as the order gets put in. Let me know if you have any questions or need anything.

[email protected]

[AirCavBob]

Customer;
Trust
Suppressor

Mailed: 11-26-2014
Approved: 2-19-2015
Received: 2-23-2015
Customer went home happy: 2-24-2015

[dullh]

My first Form 4, Pending to Approved, took 95 days (10/15/14-01/17/15).

My second Form 4, Pending to Approved, took 90 days (11/21/14-02/18/15).

I used a Trust.

[Artful]

Form 4 - Trust to LLC
Oct 1st BATFE received in PO BOX
- Received approved form 4 Jan 24

[Bradpierson26]

This is where I'm at:

AAC Ti-Rant 9mm
Purchased: 11-24-2014 (QRF)
F3 filed: ?
F3 approved: 1-10-2015
Dealer received: 2-6-2015
F4 mailed: 2-11-2015
Check cashed:
Pending:
Approved:
Received:

Thompson Machine Micro 9mm
Purchased: 12-1-2014 (thompson machine.com)
F3 filed: 12-5-2014
F3 approved:
F4 mailed:
Check cashed:
Pending:
Approved:
Received:

SiCO SpecWar 556
Purchased: 12-19-2014 from Cherokee Gun in GA. $399 shipped thanks to D_J
F3 filed: ?
F3 approved: 2-11-2015
Dealer Received: 2-20-2015
F4 mailed:
Check cashed:
Pending:
Approved:
Received:

Gemtech GM-22
Purchased: 1-28-2015 @ silencershop
F3 filed: 2-2-2015
F3 approved:
F4 mailed:
Check cashed:
Pending:
Approved:
Received:

Gemtech Trek (Phoenix Distributors on Gunbroker)
Purchased: 2/12/2015
F3 Filed:
F3 approved:
F4 mailed:
check cashed:
Pending:
Approved:
Received:

[ericdraven]

[Bradpierson26]

that was a very constructive comment

+1

[ThaDoubleJ]

My last two cans took about two months for the F3, about four months for the F4. Last F1 took 32 days, efiled. All on a trust.

[Abiqua]

Form 4 mailed 25 Nov 2014, check cashed 02 Dec, approved 23 Feb 2015. Silencer via trust.

[MJF1911]

I've got a F4 I sent in right at the end of Nov. but haven't heard anything yet.

[sucker76]

submitted 11/17/14
check was cashed on 11/26/2014
approval 3/10/15

105 days!!!!

Saker 762

[jdasilva]

SilencerCo Salvo 12
12 Gauge
Capitol Armory
S Nov 5, 2014
C Nov 15, 2014
P Dec 5, 2014
A Feb 5, 2015
S Feb 19, 2015
107 Days
Christina Farris


Stoeger Coachgun ST SBS
12 Gauge
F1 Trust
E Dec 24, 2014
C Dec 24, 2014
P Dec 24, 2014
E Feb 4-5, 2015
A Feb 5, 2015
S Feb 5, 2015
43 Days
Jason Bowers


SilencerCo Osprey 9
9mm
Capitol Armory
S Dec 26, 2014
C Jan 2, 2015
P Jan 2, 2015
A
S
Days
Examiner


Mossberg 590A1 AOW
12 Gauge
Capitol Armory
S Dec 26, 2014
C Jan 2, 2015
P Jan 2, 2015
A
S
Days
Examiner


SIlencerCo Spectre 22
.22LR
Capitol Armory
S Jan 2, 2015
C Jan 6, 2015
P Jan 6, 2015
A
S
Days
Examiner