Besides just buying direct thread only, what are your thoughts on future proofing your QD cans? I purchased several extra brakes/comps to handle this issue. As my NFA items are in a trust, they'll likely be passed down to the next generation or two. What are the chances that a specific 2015 QD mount (from any manufacturer) will be available in 30-50 years? I'd say pretty close to zero. I don't want to be the guy on "lasergunbroker.com" looking in the antique section for muzzle devices to fit my "old school" cans. Some might say that they won't last that long, but modern build materials are getting pretty resilient to high round counts (stellite, inconel, etc).
We'll probably be metal printing our own cans in 20 years anyway, but thought I'd ask your thoughts. Thanks.
-JLB
Future proofing your cans
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Future proofing your cans
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Re: Future proofing your cans
Some things in life are worth worrying about.
This is measured on the scale of things not worth thinking about.
This is measured on the scale of things not worth thinking about.
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Damn you have a lot of posts.doubloon wrote:Some things in life are worth worrying about.
This is measured on the scale of things not worth thinking about.
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Yes.
A few good ones and a lot of useless ones.
A few good ones and a lot of useless ones.
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JLBourne wrote:Damn you have a lot of posts.doubloon wrote:Some things in life are worth worrying about.
This is measured on the scale of things not worth thinking about.
His previous posts were better, very bouncy
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Re: Future proofing your cans
There is absolutely ZERO chances that a specific 2015 QD mount will be available in 30-50 years......heck I would be amazed if they were available in 5-8 years based on the history of QD's.JLBourne wrote:Besides just buying direct thread only, what are your thoughts on future proofing your QD cans? I purchased several extra brakes/comps to handle this issue. As my NFA items are in a trust, they'll likely be passed down to the next generation or two. What are the chances that a specific 2015 QD mount (from any manufacturer) will be available in 30-50 years? I'd say pretty close to zero. I don't want to be the guy on "lasergunbroker.com" looking in the antique section for muzzle devices to fit my "old school" cans. Some might say that they won't last that long, but modern build materials are getting pretty resilient to high round counts (stellite, inconel, etc).
We'll probably be metal printing our own cans in 20 years anyway, but thought I'd ask your thoughts. Thanks.
-JLB
30-50 years from now noone will want to shoot your 2015 silencers anyways....they will be as outdated and poor performing as the cans we have from 30 year ago.
I would worry more about ammo supply than anything else.
Re: Future proofing your cans
It's all going to be wire fed coil guns by then.Bendersquint wrote:...
I would worry more about ammo supply than anything else.
Suppressors will be pointless, muzzle velocity will be selectable.
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Okay, I'll bite.
Buy a couple extra mounts and put them away.
Sheesh......
......and that wasn't bouncy at all.
Buy a couple extra mounts and put them away.
Sheesh......
......and that wasn't bouncy at all.
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Re: Future proofing your cans
Other than buying extra mounts I can think of only a few options, all potentially painful.
1) screw your rules and just buy direct thread cans.
2) you/heirs pay out the azz to a shop to recreate a mount 30+ years later.
3) you learn to machine it yourself and pass on knowledge to your heirs (good luck).
I prefer #1, personally. In fact as time passes I find myself relating to what Kevin Brittingham said about direct thread cans. I'm close to having a can for everything I own and just leave them attached pretty much permanently.
1) screw your rules and just buy direct thread cans.
2) you/heirs pay out the azz to a shop to recreate a mount 30+ years later.
3) you learn to machine it yourself and pass on knowledge to your heirs (good luck).
I prefer #1, personally. In fact as time passes I find myself relating to what Kevin Brittingham said about direct thread cans. I'm close to having a can for everything I own and just leave them attached pretty much permanently.
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Re: Future proofing your cans
Not so worried about 30 to 50 years. 15 maybe as I have lots of hardware in that age range.
Everything that needs a can has a mount and a few spares. Mounts are not inexpensive but not that expensive.
Everything that needs a can has a mount and a few spares. Mounts are not inexpensive but not that expensive.
Re: Future proofing your cans
Great responses, thank you all for the ideas.
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Buy a Saker?
Re: Future proofing your cans
doubloon wrote: A few good ones and a lot of useless ones.
I resemble that remark
And I'm going Laser if I live that long.
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Re: Future proofing your cans
and poof http://www.dudeiwantthat.com/gear/gadge ... -laser.asp
now how to get 20 of them to propperly allign at desired distance.....
now how to get 20 of them to propperly allign at desired distance.....
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It's still only 1watt. So 20 would be as powerful as a CFL lightbulb. Just highly concentrated, so it will blind at 150m and burst balloons.muellerdeal wrote:and poof http://www.dudeiwantthat.com/gear/gadge ... -laser.asp
now how to get 20 of them to propperly allign at desired distance.....
How powerful would it need to be to burn through several inches of flesh? 1kW?
I think that the coilgun firing a 60penny 6"long Tungsten nail @ Mach5-7 will work b/f the laser.
Snipers in the future will probably carry generators on their backs to power them. Or maybe orbital solarpowered lasers will mean that snipers will just mark the target?
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Re: Future proofing your cans
I'm Bourne's best friend and I assure you that he doesn't need that much more encouragement than that to buy a Sakerjh1990 wrote:Buy a Saker?
By the way, he's this JL Bourne, the author. Pro gun and very pro suppressor.
Re: Future proofing your cans
I don't really think of QD mounts as "allowing me to mount one can on multiple hosts." I think of QD mounts as "a secure attachment point for this weapon's dedicated silencer." That minimizes the number of mounts I have to worry about buying (but does maximize the number of silencers I own. )
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Re: Future proofing your cans
Heck, I doubt guns will be legal 20 years from now.Bendersquint wrote:There is absolutely ZERO chances that a specific 2015 QD mount will be available in 30-50 years......heck I would be amazed if they were available in 5-8 years based on the history of QD's.JLBourne wrote:Besides just buying direct thread only, what are your thoughts on future proofing your QD cans? I purchased several extra brakes/comps to handle this issue. As my NFA items are in a trust, they'll likely be passed down to the next generation or two. What are the chances that a specific 2015 QD mount (from any manufacturer) will be available in 30-50 years? I'd say pretty close to zero. I don't want to be the guy on "lasergunbroker.com" looking in the antique section for muzzle devices to fit my "old school" cans. Some might say that they won't last that long, but modern build materials are getting pretty resilient to high round counts (stellite, inconel, etc).
We'll probably be metal printing our own cans in 20 years anyway, but thought I'd ask your thoughts. Thanks.
-JLB
30-50 years from now noone will want to shoot your 2015 silencers anyways....they will be as outdated and poor performing as the cans we have from 30 year ago.
I would worry more about ammo supply than anything else.
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