Future proofing your cans

JLBourne · Post by **JLBourne** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:03 pm

Besides just buying direct thread only, what are your thoughts on future proofing your QD cans? I purchased several extra brakes/comps to handle this issue. As my NFA items are in a trust, they'll likely be passed down to the next generation or two. What are the chances that a specific 2015 QD mount (from any manufacturer) will be available in 30-50 years? I'd say pretty close to zero. I don't want to be the guy on "lasergunbroker.com" looking in the antique section for muzzle devices to fit my "old school" cans. Some might say that they won't last that long, but modern build materials are getting pretty resilient to high round counts (stellite, inconel, etc).

We'll probably be metal printing our own cans in 20 years anyway, but thought I'd ask your thoughts. Thanks.

-JLB

doubloon · Post by **doubloon** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:12 pm

Some things in life are worth worrying about.

This is measured on the scale of things not worth thinking about.

JLBourne · Post by **JLBourne** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:37 pm

doubloon wrote:Some things in life are worth worrying about.

This is measured on the scale of things not worth thinking about.

Damn you have a lot of posts.

doubloon · Post by **doubloon** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:44 pm

Yes.

A few good ones and a lot of useless ones.

jdasilva · Post by **jdasilva** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:15 pm

JLBourne wrote:
doubloon wrote:Some things in life are worth worrying about.

This is measured on the scale of things not worth thinking about.
Damn you have a lot of posts.

His previous posts were better, very bouncy

Bendersquint · Post by **Bendersquint** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:17 pm

JLBourne wrote:Besides just buying direct thread only, what are your thoughts on future proofing your QD cans? I purchased several extra brakes/comps to handle this issue. As my NFA items are in a trust, they'll likely be passed down to the next generation or two. What are the chances that a specific 2015 QD mount (from any manufacturer) will be available in 30-50 years? I'd say pretty close to zero. I don't want to be the guy on "lasergunbroker.com" looking in the antique section for muzzle devices to fit my "old school" cans. Some might say that they won't last that long, but modern build materials are getting pretty resilient to high round counts (stellite, inconel, etc).

We'll probably be metal printing our own cans in 20 years anyway, but thought I'd ask your thoughts. Thanks.

-JLB

There is absolutely ZERO chances that a specific 2015 QD mount will be available in 30-50 years......heck I would be amazed if they were available in 5-8 years based on the history of QD's.

30-50 years from now noone will want to shoot your 2015 silencers anyways....they will be as outdated and poor performing as the cans we have from 30 year ago.

I would worry more about ammo supply than anything else.

doubloon · Post by **doubloon** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:02 pm

Bendersquint wrote:...
I would worry more about ammo supply than anything else.

It's all going to be wire fed coil guns by then.

Suppressors will be pointless, muzzle velocity will be selectable.

Sigproshooter · Post by **Sigproshooter** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:32 am

Okay, I'll bite.

Buy a couple extra mounts and put them away.

Sheesh......

......and that wasn't bouncy at all.

BearTHIS · Post by **BearTHIS** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:46 pm

Other than buying extra mounts I can think of only a few options, all potentially painful.

1) screw your rules and just buy direct thread cans.

2) you/heirs pay out the azz to a shop to recreate a mount 30+ years later.

3) you learn to machine it yourself and pass on knowledge to your heirs (good luck).

I prefer #1, personally. In fact as time passes I find myself relating to what Kevin Brittingham said about direct thread cans. I'm close to having a can for everything I own and just leave them attached pretty much permanently.

eastern_hunter · Post by **eastern_hunter** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:46 pm

Not so worried about 30 to 50 years. 15 maybe as I have lots of hardware in that age range.

Everything that needs a can has a mount and a few spares. Mounts are not inexpensive but not that expensive.

JLBourne · Post by **JLBourne** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:37 pm

Great responses, thank you all for the ideas.

jh1990 · Post by **jh1990** » Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:08 am

Buy a Saker?

Artful · Post by **Artful** » Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:31 am

doubloon wrote: A few good ones and a lot of useless ones.

I resemble that remark

And I'm going Laser if I live that long.

muellerdeal · Post by **muellerdeal** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:33 pm

and poof http://www.dudeiwantthat.com/gear/gadge ... -laser.asp

now how to get 20 of them to propperly allign at desired distance.....

whiterussian1974 · Post by **whiterussian1974** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:16 pm

muellerdeal wrote:and poof http://www.dudeiwantthat.com/gear/gadge ... -laser.asp
now how to get 20 of them to propperly allign at desired distance.....

It's still only 1watt. So 20 would be as powerful as a CFL lightbulb. Just highly concentrated, so it will blind at 150m and burst balloons.
How powerful would it need to be to burn through several inches of flesh? 1kW?
I think that the coilgun firing a 60penny 6"long Tungsten nail @ Mach5-7 will work b/f the laser.
Snipers in the future will probably carry generators on their backs to power them. Or maybe orbital solarpowered lasers will mean that snipers will just mark the target?

LittleLebowski · Post by **LittleLebowski** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:56 am

jh1990 wrote:Buy a Saker?

I'm Bourne's best friend and I assure you that he doesn't need that much more encouragement than that to buy a Saker

By the way, he's this JL Bourne, the author. Pro gun and very pro suppressor.

Conqueror · Post by **Conqueror** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:41 pm

I don't really think of QD mounts as "allowing me to mount one can on multiple hosts." I think of QD mounts as "a secure attachment point for this weapon's dedicated silencer." That minimizes the number of mounts I have to worry about buying (but does maximize the number of silencers I own.

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Faulkner · Post by **Faulkner** » Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:15 pm

Bendersquint wrote:
JLBourne wrote:Besides just buying direct thread only, what are your thoughts on future proofing your QD cans? I purchased several extra brakes/comps to handle this issue. As my NFA items are in a trust, they'll likely be passed down to the next generation or two. What are the chances that a specific 2015 QD mount (from any manufacturer) will be available in 30-50 years? I'd say pretty close to zero. I don't want to be the guy on "lasergunbroker.com" looking in the antique section for muzzle devices to fit my "old school" cans. Some might say that they won't last that long, but modern build materials are getting pretty resilient to high round counts (stellite, inconel, etc).

We'll probably be metal printing our own cans in 20 years anyway, but thought I'd ask your thoughts. Thanks.

-JLB
There is absolutely ZERO chances that a specific 2015 QD mount will be available in 30-50 years......heck I would be amazed if they were available in 5-8 years based on the history of QD's.

30-50 years from now noone will want to shoot your 2015 silencers anyways....they will be as outdated and poor performing as the cans we have from 30 year ago.

I would worry more about ammo supply than anything else.

Heck, I doubt guns will be legal 20 years from now.

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