SCAR 17 w/ 13" barrel: suppressor recommendations?

[9mmkungfu]

Does anyone have recommendations on a suppressor for a SCAR 17 in the 13" barreled, CQC configuration?

I would like to avoid discussion about muzzle velocity/terminal ballistics and caliber alternatives, hoping to keep the post on topic.

Thanks in advance!

[rimshaker]

Saker 762 is warrantied down to 12" barrels for 308.

[eastern_hunter]

So is the 7.62 Specwar. Have used one on a 12.5" 308 and it really takes the concussion out of the experience. That short a bbl on a 308 is close to abusive without a can

Have a Saker in NFA jail that I'll also try.

[mk23]

Does anyone have recommendations on a suppressor for a SCAR 17 in the 13" barreled, CQC configuration?

I would like to avoid discussion about muzzle velocity/terminal ballistics and caliber alternatives, hoping to keep the post on topic.

Thanks in advance!

Saker 7.62.

That is what I run on my 17 CQC.

[9mmkungfu]

Thanks guys. So far, it looks like the options are the Saker and 7.62 Specwar. I think the YHM is also rated all the way down to 10" on .308.

I'm bummed that, when I bought my 762-SDN-6 years ago, it was rated to 12" and now they are saying 14.5".

[pneumagger]

Thanks guys. So far, it looks like the options are the Saker and 7.62 Specwar. I think the YHM is also rated all the way down to 10" on .308.

I'm bummed that, when I bought my 762-SDN-6 years ago, it was rated to 12" and now they are saying 14.5".

Seriously? That's why I bought my 762-SDN-6 too.

[9mmkungfu]

Thanks guys. So far, it looks like the options are the Saker and 7.62 Specwar. I think the YHM is also rated all the way down to 10" on .308.

I'm bummed that, when I bought my 762-SDN-6 years ago, it was rated to 12" and now they are saying 14.5".

Seriously? That's why I bought my 762-SDN-6 too.

Yeah, I sent them a few emails inquiring about using my 762-SDN-6 with it and they said 14.5"+ (for .308) barrels only. I distinctly remember them saying it was fine for a .308 rifle w/ 12" barrel when I first picked it up, though.

[pneumagger]

It was not just forum heresay or anything. Here you go...PUBLISHED from AAC in March 2011
http://300aacblackout.com/resources/INF ... -Oct18.pdf © ADVANCED ARMAMENT CORP. REV 2.0 MAR2011

MIN. BARREL LENGTH: 7.62 x 51 - 12”, 7.62 x 35 - 7”

[Deathray]

Sounds like freedom group got tired of paying for rebuilds or started going cheaper on materials.

[silencertalk]

Materials have not changed, but AAC has experience with the military and their short barrel 417s, and also the SCAR since AAC was part of that system.

What companies warrant them for does not mean that one is stronger than the other. You could test the AAC and the others and the AAC may turn out to be the strongest. I don't actually know which is strongest, but the warranty is not evidence that the AAC is less strong.

[9mmkungfu]

This is slightly confusing because, when I purchased my suppressor, the warranty had specified 12" .308 barrels were covered; since that time, the stance from AAC has changed. I can understand that, since new information through experience has developed. However, will they not honor the originally stated warranty from the time of purchase?

Maybe this is not a question someone on the forum can answer, but I feel a bit misled.

[este]

What companies warrant them for does not mean that one is stronger than the other.

How has anyone ever thought that was the case!?

If XYZ who makes precision cans looks at it and says, man, we could spend 3 months doing really extensive R&D to figure out the most abuse our product can take... Or... we can look and see that last year we fixed broken 10 cans with the sheet saying "good to 10.5 556", it makes no sense to actually test it out.

ABC brand could have a vastly inferior can but know that typically their customers shoot the cans three times a year at 20-50 rounds per range session. It makes far more sense to just replace them when issues come up, in the meantime keep pushing out product. Or likewise, the margins are so low, they don't want it coming back, so even if you've never seen an issue at 7.5" 556, say it's good for 11.5" because 7.5" 556 is stupid anyhow.

AAC, Surefire, KAC, maybe Silencerco I would figure seriously test their cans and their "works on" numbers might be based on that information (which is still just averaging), everyone else, I highly doubt it. I'm 100% certain there has been an AAC can that has failed on a 16" gun and a Gemtech that has taken an admirable level of abuse on a 7.5".

That anyone would use the number as anything but a guideline for their own personal use is mind boggling.

[Deathray]

Materials have not changed, but AAC has experience with the military and their short barrel 417s, and also the SCAR since AAC was part of that system.

So you guys got tired of fixing cans run on stuff you originally said they could be run on?

[silencertalk]

AAC cans are durable. I once made a video of shooting 100 round beta mag full auto from a 7 inch barrel through an AAC 5.56mm can.

There are companies who rate their 22 can for 5.7 when it is not stronger than other companies who do not rate their 22 can for 5.7.

What some companies call a 300 WM can, another company would call a 308 can.

[pneumagger]

What I want to know is how a tiny Harvester cna be "rated" for 300WM. That makes me nervous.

[jh1990]

What I want to know is how a tiny Harvester cna be "rated" for 300WM. That makes me nervous.

With a barrel of 24" or longer.

[rimshaker]

If you wanna eliminate any doubts and whatifs for 308 SBR use, just look at the Saker and Specwar 762 specs: full Stellite baffle cores and 300RUM support. Overbuilt is a good thing.

[silencertalk]

Stellite is for reducing erosion in the bore. How well it can take pressure will come down to thickness, volume, and type of assembly.

[thecameraman79]

When did AAC change the SDN-6 rating to 14.5 on a .308? I emailed them about my scar 17 less then 9 months ago and was told I was G2G down to a 12" barrel in .308.

[silencertalk]

Aug 2014 snapshot of the website says 14.5 inch KAC:

http://web.archive.org/web/201408031122 ... p_442.html

[thecameraman79]

We've been discussing the SDN6 not the SR7 (although I'm sure it's comparable) it doesn't state that 14.5" is the minimum length on a .308 that is just the host they used to test it on for the DB reading (hence the asterisk next to the DB reading on the page). I'm going to email AAC and see what they say but none of there suppressors on there website list the minimum barrel lengths.