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FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:35 pm
by Michael Black 47
As may approaches with the 41P stuff. Has anyone notices that form 3 are taking longer to process or its just me being in a rush. Octane 45 hanging in the balance.

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:16 pm
by Conqueror
Yes, they are taking a bit longer. I had two clear this week, both a few days over 2 months.

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:10 pm
by samson7x
Yes they are increasing. My most recent ones have been right at 2 months.

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:33 pm
by Michael Black 47
Great the last thing I want is to get it hear and 41p goes full retard. Leaving me with a can that I can't get signed off because of a CLEO,"living in the north east".

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:02 pm
by SUB-MG
I just got a couple form 3's back, one took 2 months, the other took 2 month and a week and it took a couple weeks t get it in the mail.

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:39 am
by sillycon
Michael Black 47 wrote:Great the last thing I want is to get it hear and 41p goes full retard. Leaving me with a can that I can't get signed off because of a CLEO,"living in the north east".
Ditto. I have a few stamps hanging in this balance... :(

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:04 pm
by Michael Black 47
sillycon wrote:
Michael Black 47 wrote:Great the last thing I want is to get it hear and 41p goes full retard. Leaving me with a can that I can't get signed off because of a CLEO,"living in the north east".
Ditto. I have a few stamps hanging in this balance... :(
As they say in the NFA game. "The struggle is real"

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:13 am
by bronko1975
41P also has me concerned also. I have no stamps at the moment but I have 5 i'm waiting on.
3 for silancers and 2 form 1's for SBR's. You never know what will happen with 41P. I'm everyone of us has our fingures crossed that things go our way.

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:20 pm
by sillycon
It seems like the "prevailing wisdom" is that the ruling is going to get kicked to January 2016, or "delayed indefinitely".

Personally, I just hope I have all my stamps in to ATF before what ever happens happens (I can hope all I want, I won't have them all back before hand -- I'm still waiting on F3's to clear on some...).

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:04 pm
by Bendersquint
My Form3's are pushing 3 months right now!

ATF needs to get their rear in gear.

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:34 pm
by RJT
You can have your 3s, as soon as my 4s, and 1s come back. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:18 pm
by Michael Black 47
I live in the North east. It my last can I swear. 8) I got the specwar just give me my octane 45.

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:08 am
by huanab
I'm still waiting for my dealer to call me. I'm at the 10 week mark now.

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:17 am
by Michael Black 47
huanab wrote:I'm still waiting for my dealer to call me. I'm at the 10 week mark now.
10 weeks for a form 3 Jesus. I hope that mines won't be that long. next month i plan on buying the barrels and pistons for it.

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:15 pm
by sillycon
I'm at 10+ weeks for a SpecWar I've been waiting on to come in from RSR to my dealer.

I notice on NFA Tracker that e-filed Form 1's have gone from 30 to 60 days now as well.

Anyone know if ATF-NFA has had a staff reduction or such recently?

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:44 pm
by Bendersquint
sillycon wrote:I'm at 10+ weeks for a SpecWar I've been waiting on to come in from RSR to my dealer.

I notice on NFA Tracker that e-filed Form 1's have gone from 30 to 60 days now as well.

Anyone know if ATF-NFA has had a staff reduction or such recently?

No staff reductions, increase in submittals though.

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:58 pm
by sillycon
Bendersquint wrote:
sillycon wrote:I'm at 10+ weeks for a SpecWar I've been waiting on to come in from RSR to my dealer.

I notice on NFA Tracker that e-filed Form 1's have gone from 30 to 60 days now as well.

Anyone know if ATF-NFA has had a staff reduction or such recently?

No staff reductions, increase in submittals though.
Do you figure that's mostly due to 41p panic, anti-gunner panic, or organic demand? I realize it's realistically a combination of all three, but I'm sure one is a more popular reason than the others -- there's ALWAYS a "favorite".

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:01 pm
by Michael Black 47
sillycon wrote:
Bendersquint wrote:
sillycon wrote:I'm at 10+ weeks for a SpecWar I've been waiting on to come in from RSR to my dealer.

I notice on NFA Tracker that e-filed Form 1's have gone from 30 to 60 days now as well.

Anyone know if ATF-NFA has had a staff reduction or such recently?

No staff reductions, increase in submittals though.
Do you figure that's mostly due to 41p panic, anti-gunner panic, or organic demand? I realize it's realistically a combination of all three, but I'm sure one is a more popular reason than the others -- there's ALWAYS a "favorite".
You make a great point on that with the big three. Its the prefect storm and the people at the NFA are not happy with the new wave that is coming in. They got the it down by like 70k from last year and now their back up again. I have a feeling its like "office space" with the TPS reports. :lol:

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:56 pm
by sillycon
Michael Black 47 wrote:You make a great point on that with the big three. Its the prefect storm and the people at the NFA are not happy with the new wave that is coming in. They got the it down by like 70k from last year and now their back up again. I have a feeling its like "office space" with the TPS reports. :lol:
Just for that, I'm going to need you to come in on Saturday... yea...

Honestly, perhaps the best way to eliminate the NFA (or at least get suppressors de-listed) is by everyone in the US buying as many cans as they can possibly afford. It will absolutely CRUSH the ATF/NFA branch, and it would spur American manufacturing at the same time.

Win-win for everyone (except those poor souls in the NFA office).

Frankly, they need a competent team of folks to bring the NFA branch into the computer age. The last troupe of dimwits they hired to do it really made a mess of things...

There's no reason the vast majority of the process couldn't be electronically automated either (aside from our gov'ts anaphylactic reaction to doing things the right/simple/easy/logical way)...

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:24 pm
by Michael Black 47
sillycon wrote:
Michael Black 47 wrote:You make a great point on that with the big three. Its the prefect storm and the people at the NFA are not happy with the new wave that is coming in. They got the it down by like 70k from last year and now their back up again. I have a feeling its like "office space" with the TPS reports. :lol:
Just for that, I'm going to need you to come in on Saturday... yea...

Honestly, perhaps the best way to eliminate the NFA (or at least get suppressors de-listed) is by everyone in the US buying as many cans as they can possibly afford. It will absolutely CRUSH the ATF/NFA branch, and it would spur American manufacturing at the same time.

Win-win for everyone (except those poor souls in the NFA office).

Frankly, they need a competent team of folks to bring the NFA branch into the computer age. The last troupe of dimwits they hired to do it really made a mess of things...

There's no reason the vast majority of the process couldn't be electronically automated either (aside from our gov'ts anaphylactic reaction to doing things the right/simple/easy/logical way)...

Have no fear for the electronic form 4s are coming back this summer I don't know if this includes the form 3 as well tho. So you know what that means. I think the people at the NFA are praising its like the second coming of Jesus himself. :lol: I think on there spare time they are using the range at the ATF to shoot "blank forms" to get rid of some stress, at least it not the computer and printer this time that gets it 8) . Can you imagine having boxes of paper work coming in and after 9 months of OT after clearing most of it out they bring in 30 more boxes "back to your first line you said". That can be soul crushing. :cry: "like a fat man going on a diet". I believe the network engineers have a lot of burning eyes on them waiting for them to finish the new system.

I wonder if they have rifles with fun switches to shoot at the end of the day of a hard day of work? what do you think?

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:38 pm
by Fulliautomatix
Michael Black 47 wrote: Have no fear for the electronic form 4s are coming back this summer...
Source?

Re: FORM 3 wait times

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:51 pm
by Michael Black 47
Fulliautomatix wrote:
Michael Black 47 wrote: Have no fear for the electronic form 4s are coming back this summer...
Source?

http://silencernews.com/atf-eform-4-com ... late-2015/

http://americansuppressorassociation.co ... ms-system/

always keep your head close to the ground.