Dead Air Mask-22

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:27 pm

I Preordered 1

ericdraven · Post by **ericdraven** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:24 pm

let us know how you like it . i just purchased liberty regulator few days ago .

Blackwater · Post by **Blackwater** » Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:45 am

I can feel it in my bones ... the Mask is near.

Joker31D · Post by **Joker31D** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:21 am

of course, this is keeping me from getting a Ryder or Sparrow, still chasing Unicorns, like that titanium Huntertown that never surfaced.... knowing the reputation of Mr Pappas, it wont be long.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:11 am

I don't think that I'd buy huntertown based on what I've read about on these boards.

Aaron

Blackwater · Post by **Blackwater** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:27 am

My prediction is that they start shipping to distributors next week.

But ... That's just my guess.

ericdraven · Post by **ericdraven** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:05 pm

from what ive read and seen , they had 115 db and down to 113 , that is about what all others so . so i dont see anything special
but time will tell

Blackwater · Post by **Blackwater** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:35 am

ericdraven wrote:from what ive read and seen , they had 115 db and down to 113 , that is about what all others so . so i dont see anything special
but time will tell

Baffles have a "stand-off" machined into then. When snapped together, they form a solid baffle stack inside the tube. Those stand offs form a spacer between the outer wall of the baffle stack and the inner wall of the suppressor tube. This makes cleaning a breeze. Baffles will drop out of the tube and they can be easily tumbled, unlike a monocore which is not so easily tumbled.

I trust what Todd Magee and Mike Pappas has come up with. They're not out to just enter the market with copies of what has already been done. They are looking to lead and innovate,

I handled a Sandman L & S last week and was extremely impressed with the workmanship and finish. It felt like a Rolex where it was a solid and precise mechanism.

ugareloader · Post by **ugareloader** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:10 am

Blackwater wrote:My prediction is that they start shipping to distributors next week.

But ... That's just my guess.

Looks like you were dead on. They announced on facebook they will be shipping next week. Sure you don't work for DA?

Blackwater · Post by **Blackwater** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:39 pm

ugareloader wrote:
Blackwater wrote:My prediction is that they start shipping to distributors next week.

But ... That's just my guess.

Looks like you were dead on. They announced on facebook they will be shipping next week. Sure you don't work for DA?

No. I don't work for Dead Air. I wish I did. I am a database architect with a passion for all things firearms.

Blackwater · Post by **Blackwater** » Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:25 am

The Mask-HD .22cal is arriving at dealers. Check https://www.facebook.com/NFAreviewchannel.

And this post...http://nfatalk.org/forum/showthread.php ... post209141

JasonNC · Post by **JasonNC** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:40 pm

I already have three rimfire cans total with two of them pending but this one is tempting just with the hype about how well made it is and how well it performs.

a_canadian · Post by **a_canadian** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:52 pm

I'm quite curious to read about any thoughts from the maker of this can on the reasons for using a very shallow cone for the baffle face, instead of a more usual scooped face. Seems a sort of washer/K hybrid design... which doesn't quite seem a step forward. Same for the rather diminutive jetting cuts which seem to be about 1/3 as prominent as the jets cut into the average K. Of course the proper field tests with comparisons to known .22lr cans and proper metering will tell whether these elements are superior. But I'd love to hear the engineering rationale.

Fireman1291 · Post by **Fireman1291** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 5:46 am

a_canadian wrote:I'm quite curious to read about any thoughts from the maker of this can on the reasons for using a very shallow cone for the baffle face, instead of a more usual scooped face. Seems a sort of washer/K hybrid design... which doesn't quite seem a step forward. Same for the rather diminutive jetting cuts which seem to be about 1/3 as prominent as the jets cut into the average K. Of course the proper field tests with comparisons to known .22lr cans and proper metering will tell whether these elements are superior. But I'd love to hear the engineering rationale.

Well it worked because it's my best sounding suppressor. I can't get enough of it. Great can!

Fireman1291 · Post by **Fireman1291** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 5:48 am

Full Review in progress. Love the machining on this can!

Blackwater · Post by **Blackwater** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:59 am

Is there a specific order to the baffles like the Surefire Ryder, other than the blast baffle?

Fireman1291 · Post by **Fireman1291** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:15 am

Blackwater wrote:Is there a specific order to the baffles like the Surefire Ryder, other than the blast baffle?

Just the first and last. Everything inbetween is identical.

Joshua@CapitolArmory · Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:57 am

Fireman1291 wrote: Well it worked because it's my best sounding suppressor. I can't get enough of it. Great can!

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I agree with this statement entirely.

Vagabond · Post by **Vagabond** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:08 am

Im pretty jacked up about getting this can. I ordered one from Capital Armory last week. Im hoping to have a new Mask for Halloween!

chuckcathey · Post by **chuckcathey** » Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:43 am

I too ordered one of these and can't wait to try it out.

HansohnBrothers · Post by **HansohnBrothers** » Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:54 pm

I agree, the Mask is my new favorite. It has a nice tone, easy to take apart, easy to clean, great machining and it's quiet too.

My Element and Element 2 can now be retired. Not really, the Elements still perform well.

https://instagram.com/p/50ljm6PP9c/?tak ... n_brothers

ericdraven · Post by **ericdraven** » Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:03 pm

whats the db level at?? any videos ? i read the db was 115 which is not good in my book

Joshua@CapitolArmory · Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:43 am

115 is actually pretty decent. Element is 114/115 at best on rifles. Spectre 2 115/116.

It's significantly shorter than the Spectre 2, so if it preforms the same that's not too shabby. The Regulator sounds fantastic at 111-114 dB depending on the host, and it's much longer than the Mask.

The initial tests we did (not super scientific, just to get a rough idea) had some numbers as low as 108 with the Mask. I expect the official tests to be a bit higher... so if that holds up it's pretty insane.

((Now another recently released can we tested had 129 FRP and average of 121dB.... that I would consider not good.))

rimshaker · Post by **rimshaker** » Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:57 am

Realistically, anything well below 120dB is just splitting hairs. Better to focus on the features, design, cleanability.

HansohnBrothers · Post by **HansohnBrothers** » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:40 am

Joshua@CapitolArmory wrote:115 is actually pretty decent. Element is 114/115 at best on rifles. Spectre 2 115/116.

It's significantly shorter than the Spectre 2, so if it preforms the same that's not too shabby. The Regulator sounds fantastic at 111-114 dB depending on the host, and it's much longer than the Mask.

The initial tests we did (not super scientific, just to get a rough idea) had some numbers as low as 108 with the Mask. I expect the official tests to be a bit higher... so if that holds up it's pretty insane.

((Now another recently released can we tested had 129 FRP and average of 121dB.... that I would consider not good.))

I ran a quick test on the Mask, averages below:

On the Ruger and S&W, ammo was Remington Hollow points, 22 Golden Bullet (old Walmart bulk-pack, very inconsistant).

On the Savage, ammo was CCI Quiet.

Ruger 22/45: 115.7 db
S&W M&P 15-22: 114.9 db
Savage FV-SR: 104.9 db

Keep in mind that db reduction is only part of the equation. I'll run a more controlled test this weekend and compare it with an Element 2.

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