Coyote Problem

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Coyote Problem

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Got a problem with coyotes circling around my wifes little fluffy dog...took a few shots at them with the S&W 5906...didnt do anything except scare them away..gun was a little loud...dont want the liberal neighbors to complain about the sound either, so i figured i will buy a H&K USP 45 or MK23 45 ... Need a can to go with it..any suggestions? Not too worried about price...just want the quietest and most durable can i can get..i can use some help, since this is not my area of expertise...thank you in advance
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Don't have one in that caliber but I'd personally lean toward the Octane or Osprey.

That said, depending on where you are you could probably secure the free services of a member or two to to take care of that problem for you. :D
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Re: Coyote Problem

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You will NOT be disappointed with the Octane on a Mark 23. Mine's still in jail, but I had a conjugal visit last weekend and was amazed.
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I have the factory KAC OHG can for the Mark 23. What a combo! Older design by today's standards, but it's a tank!

Also have the Osprey 45. Nice can on my Sig 220 Tac
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+1 on the Osprey.

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What pushed you to those choices? I would opt for a suppressed 10/22 or 22/45 Lite. Not sure a combat sized .45 would be my choice for murdering yotes. Even a suppressed .300blk...
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I have a ruger sr22 with an AAC ELEMENT 2 can...i want somthing a little bigger in a pistol...also the houses are too close for a rifle...i feel a little safer with the pistol, since the effective range is a lot less than with a rifle
So what do you think?
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Bradpierson26 wrote:What pushed you to those choices? I would opt for a suppressed 10/22 or 22/45 Lite. Not sure a combat sized .45 would be my choice for murdering yotes. Even a suppressed .300blk...
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With .45 being "natively" subsonic and reliably cycling the slide, I think it's a reasonable choice over a .22 -- especially when you consider that .45 ammo is "trivial" to get a hold of and .22 (let alone subsonic, especially subsonic that will cycle a semi) for the most part isn't.
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sillycon wrote:With .45 being "natively" subsonic and reliably cycling the slide, I think it's a reasonable choice over a .22 -- especially when you consider that .45 ammo is "trivial" to get a hold of and .22 (let alone subsonic, especially subsonic that will cycle a semi) for the most part isn't.
90% of HV 22LR ammo is subsonic from a 4.5" barrel in a 22/45. And they cycle nicely... CCI Quiet won't cycle it, but just about everything else will.

And it's STUPID quiet, and plenty for a 'yote.

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Re: Coyote Problem

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GUNHEEP wrote:I have a ruger sr22 with an AAC ELEMENT 2 can...i want somthing a little bigger in a pistol...also the houses are too close for a rifle...i feel a little safer with the pistol, since the effective range is a lot less than with a rifle
So what do you think?
Thank you
Bradpierson26 wrote:What pushed you to those choices? I would opt for a suppressed 10/22 or 22/45 Lite. Not sure a combat sized .45 would be my choice for murdering yotes. Even a suppressed .300blk...
147g 9mm should be quieter than .45 because of bore size.
9mm gives you more rounds on tap as well in case things go sideways with the yotes
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Re: Coyote Problem

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Thanks for the replies guys...anymore suggestions on a can?
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GUNHEEP wrote:Thanks for the replies guys...anymore suggestions on a can?
Check out Cherokee Gun and Pawn in GA, Quiet Riot Firearms, Capitol Armory, Hansohn Brothers in VA, or Silencershop in TX. Ti-rant, Octane, Osprey, Griffon Rev, etc. Whatever's in stock at a good price. GM-9 and SF Ryder are still very new but seem like they have competitive specs. A mystic X may even be a worthwhile consideration.
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Re: Coyote Problem

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I'd vote for an Octane 9 and the use of hollowpoints if you are set on a pistol round.

Hitting the right spot with a 300BLK subsonic out of a handirifle or bolt action would be a good option.
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Re: Coyote Problem

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Octane 45
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Re: Coyote Problem

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the problem to me seems to be the little fluffy chew toy, not the coyotes. let the coyotes have that one. rescue a bigger dog. cheaper & quicker. :P
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I love my Mark 23 and Osprey, it just works and looks like a matched set. Customer service at Silencerco was always top notch anytime I needed them.
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KiA wrote:the problem to me seems to be the little fluffy chew toy, not the coyotes. let the coyotes have that one. rescue a bigger dog. cheaper & quicker. :P
Too bad there's no LIKE button on forums...

I own an 80 lb "coyote", AKA a BIG male Siberian Husky. I'm guessing it'd take 4-5 of those coyotes to take him.

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Key word is "wife's". That alone makes a bigger dog a "NO OPTION"! Just a reason to get another toy. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Coyote Problem

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Osprey, Octane, GM-9, all will work well.

The "Best can" is going to come down to personal preference. Don't want suppressor sights on things, then an Osprey may look better to you. Want something that may see subgun use, pistol caliber carbine, or need to clean it? Octane. GM-9 is fairly small and monocore, so not exactly a mix between the two but has some strengths and weaknesses of both.
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Re: Coyote Problem

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hunter2 wrote:Key word is "wife's". That alone makes a bigger dog a "NO OPTION"! Just a reason to get another toy. :lol: :lol: :lol:
That is correct in the key word. "WIFES". Penti is a brave little dog...she thinks she is a 140lb. Dog in a 14lb body...the other day a customer came over with his 120lb yellow lab and she attacked him...i just dont want them cyotes sniffing around thats all..
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Re: Coyote Problem

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Joshua@CapitolArmory wrote:Osprey, Octane, GM-9, all will work well.

The "Best can" is going to come down to personal preference. Don't want suppressor sights on things, then an Osprey may look better to you. Want something that may see subgun use, pistol caliber carbine, or need to clean it? Octane. GM-9 is fairly small and monocore, so not exactly a mix between the two but has some strengths and weaknesses of both.
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I talked to Torrey before i made this post and he told me the osprey or octane...i like the osprey for the flow of design and use of standard sightes...but i think he said the octane was a little quieter? I do not recall?
I am still not sure on what can to buy?
Thank you
Andy
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Re: Coyote Problem

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I personally haven't found much value in taller sights on my suppressed handguns. From my experience, they are FAR more prone to catching on stuff (especially without the can on the gun), and they still aren't tall enough to actually see around the can so you end up sighting "through" the can anyway.

Standard sights are certainly not going to let you shoot surgically with a can on, but realistically few (if any) of us will be doing that anyway.
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Re: Coyote Problem

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If he's shooting at yotes with a handgun he's going to need something a little better than Kentucky windage if he wants to hit them.

Taller sights or a red dot will allow for a little more precision at 50+ yards assuming the hand is steady.

It works on turtles out at the ranch.
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Re: Coyote Problem

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For 50+ yard shots on a moving target, a handgun wouldn't be my first choice. I'd want something with a longer sight radius and more points of contact/stability. If wanting to stay pistol-caliber, then a 9mm AR with 147's or such, perhaps. With a hasty sling, that would be a VERY devastating setup in the "up to 100yd" range (and perhaps even a bit further).
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Re: Coyote Problem

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I won't be able to hit anything on my property outside of 50 yards if i am lucky...my property is heavily wooded?.that is why i want a big bore pistol to go through the small srubs and brush...suppressing a 50AE would be nice, but the follow up shot would be a little tricky
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