Buyer beware of Advanced Armament/an ongoing experience

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Re: Buyer beware of Advanced Armament/an ongoing experience

Post by L1A1Rocker » Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:54 am

JohnnyUtah556 wrote:In regards to the Damn The Man promotion, I watched the website like a hawk and with the right time redeemed my $400 on a 12.5 300blk upper, since the 9" was never in stock. Now I can't even seem to get timing shims and they're all out of stock.
You can find timing shims at Midway and Brownells. They are not AAC brand but should work fine.

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Re: Buyer beware of Advanced Armament/an ongoing experience

Post by MJF1911 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:15 am

It is too bad Remington destroyed them. I sure like my 300TM and Pilot, but I'd be hard pressed to buy anything else from AAC.
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Re: Buyer beware of Advanced Armament/an ongoing experience

Post by JohnnyUtah556 » Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:51 am

L1A1Rocker wrote:
JohnnyUtah556 wrote:In regards to the Damn The Man promotion, I watched the website like a hawk and with the right time redeemed my $400 on a 12.5 300blk upper, since the 9" was never in stock. Now I can't even seem to get timing shims and they're all out of stock.
You can find timing shims at Midway and Brownells. They are not AAC brand but should work fine.
Thanks, I just picked up a Surefire muzzle brake so hopefully the spare shims and rocksett will do the trick

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Re: Buyer beware of Advanced Armament/an ongoing experience

Post by Deja vu » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:07 am

I hope my Element 2 never has issues. I dont want to deal with Remington. Already had to have them fix an old marlin and they took nearly a year and it came back very rough. The issue was a broken firing pin. I don't know why they had to change out the lever and the magazine tube. Makes me wonder what they did to it.

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Post by Joker31D » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:12 am

This is sad, This part of the Firearms Business is Booming more than any other in history, except AR15's and with the dedication the consumers show, its hard to watch a company that doesn't show customers the same respect. Customer relations are exactly that, a relationship with a customer. I'm annulling my new marriage with them and cancelling my order for my new can and upper. I was one of the original testers for the Remington Tracking point Rifles on the Military side and was offered one at cost, I put my money up and its been 4 years, 3 new reps and 3 new managers since I placed my order, wonder if I'll ever get my rifle? I'd cancel but the deal was awesome. After seeing what they did with each of their new companies I'm skeptical. I'm stil waiting for the recall to fix my 700's trigger.
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Post by flyingbullseye » Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:25 pm

Deja vu wrote:I hope my Element 2 never has issues. I dont want to deal with Remington. Already had to have them fix an old marlin and they took nearly a year and it came back very rough. The issue was a broken firing pin. I don't know why they had to change out the lever and the magazine tube. Makes me wonder what they did to it.
Probably took it hunting before sending it back. :lol:

As a new can owner and AAC can to boot this gives me some uneasiness. I am loving my new 300-TM the more I use it and while I can't see any need (barring the unforeseen) to have any work done on it if it does I don't feel to positive AAC will take care of me in a timely manner. I'm hoping they turn this around in the near future and make positive strides with their CS. Its always possible.

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Re: Buyer beware of Advanced Armament/an ongoing experience

Post by GTO_Kroh » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:35 am

This is a shame. I always liked aac suppressors and the mounting system. Already dealt with remington over a trigger recall on my 300 blk rem 700. That experience sucked. Should have just bought a timney.

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Post by Prince Yamato » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:21 am

I was one of the original testers for the Remington Tracking point Rifles on the Military side and was offered one at cost, I put my money up and its been 4 years, 3 new reps and 3 new managers since I placed my order, wonder if I'll ever get my rifle?
You know they just went out of business right?

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Re: Buyer beware of Advanced Armament/an ongoing experience

Post by savagetactical » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:52 pm

I'm seeing a lot of bad mouthing of AAC. Guys I think you are all getting a little carried away. I understand you are angry - I would be too - but they just completed a major move and these things take time. I've seen it several times in the Air Force when we start a building project on base. It is very much like what AAC is doing in the move to Huntsville. They were in Georgia for the better part of 10 or more years. They had to completely up root their business and move in with all the other Remington companies in Alabama. None of these companies have ever done this before and they probably having a lot of friction getting operations restarted. We do this kind of thing in the Air Force all the time and we screw it up more than we get it right.

They've lost people in the move and got new people they're trying to train across their work force. Many of these people are skill labours (machinist) who are hard to find. When you do find one, it takes time for them to adapt to the way AAC does things and learn the nuisances of suppressor manufacture. They've probably also had to get new admin people working in the offices as well. The people that manage these promotions. When you're new to the office it takes time to learn the job.

Trust me, I know. The Air Force has us changing offices every year in a flying squadron. I have found it take about 6 months to learn your new job when you factor in deployments and TDY's and about a full year to get really good at it. This is for college grads who have to skills and mental fortitude to make it through a formal military flying program. These people are not stupid(mostly) and are very capable (again, mostly). I wouldn't write AAC off yet. I'd wait until the beginning of next year before I started thing the company has gone off the deep end.

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Re: Buyer beware of Advanced Armament/an ongoing experience

Post by Kramer » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:10 pm

You must be new in the world of suppressors. These issues are not new and have been ongoing years before Remington took them over.

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Post by 66427vette » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:42 pm

Savagetactical is clueless. Hope savage paid you to use that name. Lol

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Post by T-Rex » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:50 pm

Seriously?
6-12 months for a skilled, college graduate to learn their job?
It's no wonder so much smack is talked about the Chair Force :lol:

Enter the real world. Most companies give you a 90 day, probationary, period.

I don't see Remington's actions as being those of a company who is truly committed to the future of AAC. I wouldn't be surprised if they're only interest was an easy route to snatch gov't contracts. They've had the M4A1 contract since 2012, worth up to $180M. Combine that with an $80M contract for precision rifle, after everyone else boycott'd the deal. It's pretty clear they are more worried about the bottom line.

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Post by continuity » Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:56 pm

ericlw wrote:Are you holding down the latch while you thread it on or let it click over all the teeth? i always hold mine down so it doesn't wear things down.
Use a YHM QD Phantom on my patrol rifle. The rifle stays in its locked cruiser holder, and the suppressor comes inside with me at the end of every shift. The suppressor lockup on the toothed adapter has not provided any indicators of wear failure.

Believe YHM QD mounting system has it over AAC. Just saying...
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Post by JasonM » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:48 pm

T-Rex wrote:They've had the M4A1 contract since 2012, worth up to $180M.

Off-topic, but that contract award was protested by Colt and taken away from Rem.

Also, agree on the bigger picture... it's not encouraging the way Rem has run AAC (seemingly) into the ground in a couple short years.

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Re: Buyer beware of Advanced Armament/an ongoing experience

Post by azdryheat » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:38 am

continuity wrote:
ericlw wrote:Are you holding down the latch while you thread it on or let it click over all the teeth? i always hold mine down so it doesn't wear things down.
Use a YHM QD Phantom on my patrol rifle. The rifle stays in its locked cruiser holder, and the suppressor comes inside with me at the end of every shift. The suppressor lockup on the toothed adapter has not provided any indicators of wear failure.

Believe YHM QD mounting system has it over AAC. Just saying...
I am also using a YHM QD Phantom and have another waiting for the Feds. Very happy with YHM.

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Re: Buyer beware of Advanced Armament/an ongoing experience

Post by n.franklin » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:15 am

Didnt most of AAC's crew go to Sig? Might have to buy one of their cans next.

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Post by AggiePhil » Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:07 pm

Does Mers still work there?

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Post by Mageever » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:52 am

n.franklin wrote:Didnt most of AAC's crew go to Sig? Might have to buy one of their cans next.
A few went to Sig a all the fun crew came to us (Dead Air). Well except John Hollister and Brent Taylor (Liberty). I wish they were with us too.

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Re: Buyer beware of Advanced Armament/an ongoing experience

Post by Deathray » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:47 am

It's OK guys, they still have plenty of shirts in stock so you can advertise the silencer "lifestyle."

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Post by 66427vette » Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:57 pm

I wish Nick or someone else would answer my customers emails.

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Post by AggiePhil » Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:03 am

Is Mike Mers still with AAC? Anyone know?

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Post by L1A1Rocker » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:09 am

AggiePhil wrote:Is Mike Mers still with AAC? Anyone know?
Who knows:

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Post by RJT » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:30 am

Mike isn't with them anymore, I don't know where he went though.
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Post by Sigproshooter » Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:05 am

I called it years ago.

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Re: Buyer beware of Advanced Armament/an ongoing experience

Post by Mageever » Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:22 am

Mike Smith is still there, so they've still got a great designer on hand. There's always that.

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