Shims and Rocksett problem

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Rich93ds
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Shims and Rocksett problem

Post by Rich93ds » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:23 pm

I'm trying to get my brake on so I can use my suppressor but I'm having issues. I got a AAC shim kit and rocksett from brownells last week. I tried installing it yesterday but I'm running in to some issues. The only combination of shims that got it close was bearly tight (hand tight) but after reading about Rocksett it seemed like that it would not be a problem. I scrubbed the threads with a brass brush and cleaned them with brake clean. Then put two drops of Rocksett on the threads and put the brake on. The instructions said to wait 24 hours at room temperature or 15 min at 175. I got my heat gun and a thermometer and baked it on at around 180. Then I stuck it in the safe till today (18ish hours). I just put on my can and it went on fine but when I tried to take it off it removed the brake.

Any ideas on where I screwed up?
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Re: Shims and Rocksett problem

Post by eastern_hunter » Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:39 pm

I always clean with 90+% isopropanol as the last step and blow dry. Then get the treads wet with Rocksett ... 2 drops seldom enough ... but be careful not to get any in the bore. I often put a patch into the bore and make sure it shows out the end of the muzzle.


Then I heat it some with a heat gun ... AND let it sit 24 to 48 hours!


Have not found that the fast heat cure for Rocksett (sodium silicate) works. Simply does not drive of the water within the Rocksett.

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Re: Shims and Rocksett problem

Post by Rich93ds » Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:44 pm

eastern_hunter wrote:I always clean with 90+% isopropanol as the last step and blow dry. Then get the treads wet with Rocksett ... 2 drops seldom enough ... but be careful not to get any in the bore. I often put a patch into the bore and make sure it shows out the end of the muzzle.


Then I heat it some with a heat gun ... AND let it sit 24 to 48 hours!


Have not found that the fast heat cure for Rocksett (sodium silicate) works. Simply does not drive of the water within the Rocksett.
Is the brake being hand tight good enough as long as I Rocksett it properly?
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Re: Shims and Rocksett problem

Post by Oldfatguy » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:34 pm

Well, from your experience it looks like hand tight isn't tight enough. Get some more shims so you can properly torque it.

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Re: Shims and Rocksett problem

Post by eastern_hunter » Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:17 pm

Still has to be properly torqued.

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Re: Shims and Rocksett problem

Post by chrismartin » Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:33 pm

Rocksett is not some super strong adhesive. It's about the same as blue locktite.
It's very good at temp resistance (better than red locktite), that's why it is used on silencer muzzle devices.

So, not, hand tight is not enough. The muzzle device needs to be properly torqued. The rocksett just keeps it in place as things heat up.

Also, don't forget to clean the INSIDE of the muzzle device's threads. You must have both the barrel and muzzle device properly degreased or the rocksett will not set.

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Re: Shims and Rocksett problem

Post by L1A1Rocker » Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:13 pm

Does the brake cleaner leave a film after drying?

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Re: Shims and Rocksett problem

Post by rimshaker » Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:25 pm

Just use rubbing alcohol. Soak a nylon brush in it and degrease both the barrel and muzzle device threads.
Repeat several times to be sure.

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Re: Shims and Rocksett problem

Post by Rich93ds » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:21 am

Ok, thanks. I think I might try a peel washer too.
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