How is this legal?- ebay listing

[Hannibalbarca]

This seems like it would be illegal to sell or posses.
i was looking on ebay and found this

is this is a sting or something?

also can the function of directly inserting images be added to the forum?

[Todd Is]

Looks like jail bait. Is the seller a class III dealer?

I had to buy some washers from Lowes for a deck project once, no hassles there

[John A.]

I noticed several questionable muzzlebrakes on ebay recently.

One, even looks like a patented design that I have seen pictures of recently.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Muzzle-Brake-22 ... 2293608595

Here is a screenshot that I got of it because I am sure that the listing won't last long.



I would strongly recommend to use better judgement than to try to buy one of these. Run away screaming.

[Todd Is]

Looks like an Ebayer since 2015 and got 93 transactions with 100% satisfaction rate.

[fishman]

I noticed several questionable muzzlebrakes on ebay recently.

One, even looks like a patented design that I have seen pictures of recently.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Muzzle-Brake-22 ... 2293608595

Here is a screenshot that I got of it because I am sure that the listing won't last long.



I would strongly recommend to use better judgement than to try to buy one of these. Run away screaming.

I honestly don't see how this is much different than a solvent trap and storage cup kit. Can this muzzle brake be turned into a silencer? Yes. Was it designed to be turned into a silencer? Yes. But you can say the same about solvent trap kits. What's the difference?

[mbogo]

Unless and until you put that inside a tube, it's just a muzzle brake.

mbogo

[John A.]

My precedent is sig sauer muzzlebrake on their 9mm thing, which were pulled from the market.

And there has been at least one other ebay seller who was selling long muzzlebrakes who was recently jailed, but then he got out and started selling them again, and went back to jail for muzzlebrakes that would be a lot more difficult to do.

[bottomdweller]

Yeah, I agree with fishman. What difference does it make? That muzzle brake looks bad ass. Bleeds gas outward. One mans idea. Maybe they look like flames instead? Where does the line between art, technical, and the law intersect? There really is no black/white, only shades of gray.

[fishman]

My precedent is sig sauer muzzlebrake on their 9mm thing, which were pulled from the market.

And there has been at least one other ebay seller who was selling long muzzlebrakes who was recently jailed, but then he got out and started selling them again, and went back to jail for muzzlebrakes that would be a lot more difficult to do.

Sig was open about their muzzle brakes doubling as silencer baffles. Also, their muzzle brakes required no machining to become a silencer part. That's very different from this ad and solvent traps.

[GLOCKFREAK2]

if it's gray.... NO way

[T-Rex]

It should be illegal solely based on that giant first chamber. I can hear it screaming FRP, from here

[vaeevictiss]

intent...thats how its legal.

If its sold with the intent, purchased with the intent, and used with the intent to be nothing other than a weird, oversized muzzle brake; then there is nothing illegal about it.

However once you cover it with anything, hell wrap a piece of paper around it, im sure the ATF can say your intent is no longer a muzzle brake.

my only dislike is that its aluminum and he suggests .223/5.56. That muzzle blast will erode the hell out of it in short order.

[Hannibalbarca]

intent...thats how its legal.

If its sold with the intent, purchased with the intent, and used with the intent to be nothing other than a weird, oversized muzzle brake; then there is nothing illegal about it.

However once you cover it with anything, hell wrap a piece of paper around it, im sure the ATF can say your intent is no longer a muzzle brake.

my only dislike is that its aluminum and he suggests .223/5.56. That muzzle blast will erode the hell out of it in short order.

how fast will aluminum be worn out when compared to stainless steel?
also could you recommend a source to buy some steel baffl cones in the 1.5 inch range and a tube and end caps for a cheap form 1?

[Hannibalbarca]

I noticed several questionable muzzlebrakes on ebay recently.

One, even looks like a patented design that I have seen pictures of recently.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Muzzle-Brake-22 ... 2293608595

Here is a screenshot that I got of it because I am sure that the listing won't last long.



I would strongly recommend to use better judgement than to try to buy one of these. Run away screaming.

I honestly don't see how this is much different than a solvent trap and storage cup kit. Can this muzzle brake be turned into a silencer? Yes. Was it designed to be turned into a silencer? Yes. But you can say the same about solvent trap kits. What's the difference?

speaking of solvent traps i saw a couple of 1.5x8.125 aluminum ones for 140 free shipping, seller was knew and had no reviews.
was looking at it the last couple of days and today they disappeared and i cant find the seller.
they were just solvent traps, drilling was still needed.