Hey guys,
I have some property and want to buy a suppressor to help be more neighborly.
I have a lot of ARs, an AK, some 22LR, 9MM, not many 45 .. but then 308 up to 45-70.
I'm looking to do the most economical thing possible when it comes to buying a suppressor.
The silencerco hybrid seems like an option, but isn't it just a gimmick? Does that specific silencer work better than if I got like a 308 .. or 45 suppressor? I don't get how it can suppress lesser caibers better than any other type of oversized can.... I think it's also close to a grand.
Anyway I guess I'm just wondering what you all would recommend.
I know the best calibers I have to suppress would be:
9MM Subs
22LR Subs
300 Blackout Subs
Other calibers I'd shoot would be:
308
223
7.62x39
So I guess my options would be:
1. SiCo hybrid (or other) - all calibers
2. 308 Suppressor - all calibers except 9mm
3. Or 22LR suppressor, 308 Suppressor, 45 or 9mm suppressor.
What would you guys suggest?
I DO care about noise reduction, however if the SiCo can will suppress all those calibers not even close to as effectively as a dedicated can then it would be a deal breaker.
Sorry if this is confusing.
Can Someone Help Me? Mutli Cal vs Dedicated vs 45?
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Can Someone Help Me? Mutli Cal vs Dedicated vs 45?
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Re: Can Someone Help Me? Mutli Cal vs Dedicated vs 45?
The hybrid is a jack of all trades, master of none. If you're looking for hearing safe pistol and 300 blk all in one can, look no further. If you want quiet, move along. Also, I think the hybrid is heavier than most pistol cans.
I'd do option 3, but that's coming from a guy that makes his own cans.
I'd do option 3, but that's coming from a guy that makes his own cans.
300 blackout form 1: http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=137293
5.56 form 1:
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5.56 form 1:
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Re: Can Someone Help Me? Mutli Cal vs Dedicated vs 45?
From what I have learned, the smaller the bore the better the sound reduction, supposedly. Longer/slimmer is better than shorter/fatter plus you may not have to change out the sites.
As an example, I have two cans from a different manufacturer (Liberty). One is their Mystic 9mm. The other is their Cosmic 45. I put them both on my 300 BLK and my 9 mm and cannot tell the difference at my ear on the same gun. If I were buying, I'd buy the 45 and use it on both guns. You get a little benefit using a can shooting supersonic but not much. The bullet is going supersonic after it leaves the can/gun.
My issues have come from making sure I do not get the adapters mixed up. My adapters fit on both cans interchangeably. Shooting a 45 with a 45 suppressor and a 9 mm adapter would be a big FUBAR.
Don't put a lot of emphasis on the db tests done by the can manufacturers. In fact, a 1-2 db reduction is useless in comparison. Most don't have thousands of dollars worth of db meters. I saw a video of a guy trying to use a db meter he downloaded to his smart phone. Not worth the effort.
As an example, I have two cans from a different manufacturer (Liberty). One is their Mystic 9mm. The other is their Cosmic 45. I put them both on my 300 BLK and my 9 mm and cannot tell the difference at my ear on the same gun. If I were buying, I'd buy the 45 and use it on both guns. You get a little benefit using a can shooting supersonic but not much. The bullet is going supersonic after it leaves the can/gun.
My issues have come from making sure I do not get the adapters mixed up. My adapters fit on both cans interchangeably. Shooting a 45 with a 45 suppressor and a 9 mm adapter would be a big FUBAR.
Don't put a lot of emphasis on the db tests done by the can manufacturers. In fact, a 1-2 db reduction is useless in comparison. Most don't have thousands of dollars worth of db meters. I saw a video of a guy trying to use a db meter he downloaded to his smart phone. Not worth the effort.
Re: Can Someone Help Me? Mutli Cal vs Dedicated vs 45?
What he said.fishman wrote:The hybrid is a jack of all trades, master of none. If you're looking for hearing safe pistol and 300 blk all in one can, look no further. If you want quiet, move along. Also, I think the hybrid is heavier than most pistol cans.
I'd do option 3, but that's coming from a guy that makes his own cans.
However, if you really don't care about the personal experience and only care about the neighbors then a multical will get the job done but you'd still be better off getting 3 or more because with one you'll just be moving it from host to host to host to host host to host to host ....
If you're getting 3 or more anyway then get dedicated cans for the hosts that count and a couple multical types for the safe queens and guest guns.
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Re: Can Someone Help Me? Mutli Cal vs Dedicated vs 45?
Just some options to consider Griffin Armament Revolution 9 for 9mm, 308. 300 bo, 556. GA Revolution 45 just for 45, the GA recce 7 is a great suppressor also for 30 cal. The GA reece 5 is also great for 556 and 22wmr and 22lr.
Re: Can Someone Help Me? Mutli Cal vs Dedicated vs 45?
OK so lots of good answers...
1. Can I use a pistol suppressor on a rifle? So a 9MM Suppressor, would that handle a 300Blackout .. 308, 556?
2. I am thinking if I had a lightish 5.56 suppressor that wasn't huge I could use that for a 22LR and 5.56 - it would also have to be cleanable - does this exist?
So basically this seems like an ideal situation:
- A 9MM Suppressor I can use on 300Black, 9mm, 308 (screw the 45 caliber)
- A 5.56 suppressor I could use on a 22LR (the 22lr is really what I would want to suppress, but i think going from 5.56 to 22lr is doable and having a 22lr suppressor on 5.56 would not work.)
1. Can I use a pistol suppressor on a rifle? So a 9MM Suppressor, would that handle a 300Blackout .. 308, 556?
2. I am thinking if I had a lightish 5.56 suppressor that wasn't huge I could use that for a 22LR and 5.56 - it would also have to be cleanable - does this exist?
So basically this seems like an ideal situation:
- A 9MM Suppressor I can use on 300Black, 9mm, 308 (screw the 45 caliber)
- A 5.56 suppressor I could use on a 22LR (the 22lr is really what I would want to suppress, but i think going from 5.56 to 22lr is doable and having a 22lr suppressor on 5.56 would not work.)
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Re: Can Someone Help Me? Mutli Cal vs Dedicated vs 45?
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Re: Can Someone Help Me? Mutli Cal vs Dedicated vs 45?
My 9mm Mystic is called a "pistol" can but it can handle a subsonic 300 Blackout. If you see a suppressor that seems to trip your trigger call or email the manufacturer and ask them for a list of approved rounds. Trying to shoot full power 308/5.56 would be asking for trouble.boostmg wrote:OK so lots of good answers...
1. Can I use a pistol suppressor on a rifle? So a 9MM Suppressor, would that handle a 300Blackout .. 308, 556?
2. I am thinking if I had a lightish 5.56 suppressor that wasn't huge I could use that for a 22LR and 5.56 - it would also have to be cleanable - does this exist?
So basically this seems like an ideal situation:
- A 9MM Suppressor I can use on 300Black, 9mm, 308 (screw the 45 caliber)
- A 5.56 suppressor I could use on a 22LR (the 22lr is really what I would want to suppress, but i think going from 5.56 to 22lr is doable and having a 22lr suppressor on 5.56 would not work.)
A couple mistakes I have made:
I bought a .22 aluminum can based on it's light weight. It is a real pain to clean. If I had a do over I would get stainless/titanium.
One of my .45s is a HK. It has a left handed threaded barrel. My adapter to can is right handed. Tightening one loosens the other. I have to use loctite or it will shoot loose.
Re: Can Someone Help Me? Mutli Cal vs Dedicated vs 45?
The "NEW" version of the Liberty Mystic X is what you are looking for. It does have some barrel length restrictions.boostmg wrote:OK so lots of good answers...
1. Can I use a pistol suppressor on a rifle? So a 9MM Suppressor, would that handle a 300Blackout .. 308, 556?
So basically this seems like an ideal situation:
- A 9MM Suppressor I can use on 300Black, 9mm, 308 (screw the 45 caliber)
I currently use mine (first model) for .357mag, 6.8spc, 300BO, 22LR and mag, 9mm carbine, .223/5.56 and a couple others. I do plan on sending it in for the upgrade so that it will handle .357max and .308rem and .260rem
http://libertycans.net/mystic-x/
Re: Can Someone Help Me? Mutli Cal vs Dedicated vs 45?
The possible answer to this question. http://libertycans.net/centerfire-rifle ... stitution/boostmg wrote:OK so lots of good answers...
2. I am thinking if I had a lightish 5.56 suppressor that wasn't huge I could use that for a 22LR and 5.56 - it would also have to be cleanable - does this exist?
So basically this seems like an ideal situation:
- A 5.56 suppressor I could use on a 22LR (the 22lr is really what I would want to suppress, but i think going from 5.56 to 22lr is doable and having a 22lr suppressor on 5.56 would not work.)
Re: Can Someone Help Me? Mutli Cal vs Dedicated vs 45?
This seems like a really great option. Just researching it now.Kanook wrote:The "NEW" version of the Liberty Mystic X is what you are looking for. It does have some barrel length restrictions.boostmg wrote:OK so lots of good answers...
1. Can I use a pistol suppressor on a rifle? So a 9MM Suppressor, would that handle a 300Blackout .. 308, 556?
So basically this seems like an ideal situation:
- A 9MM Suppressor I can use on 300Black, 9mm, 308 (screw the 45 caliber)
I currently use mine (first model) for .357mag, 6.8spc, 300BO, 22LR and mag, 9mm carbine, .223/5.56 and a couple others. I do plan on sending it in for the upgrade so that it will handle .357max and .308rem and .260rem
http://libertycans.net/mystic-x/
I guess only downside is no 308 and 5.56 is limited by 16" barrel length and obviously not meant for hard use. Not a deal breaker but just a weak point.
I may be better off getting something like this mystic x ... and then maybe a 308 can and use that on 5.56 if i needed to.
Basically have a subsonic can and then a super sonic rifle can ...
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Re: Can Someone Help Me? Mutli Cal vs Dedicated vs 45?
Curiosity kills the cat, so they say. I see the Mystic X is limited to 18"barrel for 300 WM, 308, and other more potent rifle calibers.
I am not a tester type person but wonder what the extra 2 inches over most 16" barreled AR causes?
I am not a tester type person but wonder what the extra 2 inches over most 16" barreled AR causes?
Re: Can Someone Help Me? Mutli Cal vs Dedicated vs 45?
I believe they are trying to hedge against premature baffle erosion.hardcase wrote:...
I am not a tester type person but wonder what the extra 2 inches over most 16" barreled AR causes?
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Re: Can Someone Help Me? Mutli Cal vs Dedicated vs 45?
Pretty much. But it's a good can, and a great first suppressor option. It won't be the quietest on a rifle, and it is definitely heavy as a pistol can, but being that it can handle everything up to .338 Lapua, .45-70 government and other large bore centerfire rifle rounds and then be adapted to use on any handgun other than a Desert Eagle means it has no equal. Also, if suppressing a .45-70 or .458 Socom is something you want to do, there really isn't a better choice.fishman wrote:The hybrid is a jack of all trades, master of none. If you're looking for hearing safe pistol and 300 blk all in one can, look no further. If you want quiet, move along. Also, I think the hybrid is heavier than most pistol cans.
I have one, and I've used it with more cartridges than most people will ever be familiar with. Honestly, the only thing I find it doesn't work well for is shorty 5.56 rifles. It quieted my 13" .308 enough that my ears weren't bothered, but that snappiness of a 10" 5.56 is something I've found difficult to mitigate with most .30 cal or larger cans. Shorty 5.56 really need dedicated 5.56 cans, IMO.
I've also hammered my Hybrid with 5.56 and .308 full auto fire, no problems.
In short, you're gonna end up with other suppressors, but I don't think you'd ever regret the Hybrid. The retail shop I'm partnered with and do smithing for sells more Hybrids than all others combined (excluding rimfire), and people are happy with them.
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