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Used suppressor market?

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Anyone what the used suppressor market is? It's kinda dumb as I know someone could just put one on a card and have it paid off by the time it clears but I'm contemplating trying to sell my two suppressors. I've got two cans, which are awesome, but they're longer than the suppressor technology out there now. Paid $1000 for one and $800 for another. Same brand, same mounts (7+) for both but I know I'd wouldn't get used firearm or accessory prices as the buyer would have to wait a year for a used can.

That said, I kinda want to figure it out as I'd like to get a pair of Dead Air Sandman-k suppressors. From Silencershop they're currently $569 which is awesome.

So, any help in figuring out what my other cans, mounts are worth? Probably try to get $800 and $600 respectively and then throw in a mount each (usually they're extra at $125 each). Then sell the rest of the mounts cheap or throw them in just to get cash.

Thoughts? Where is the best place to sell them- GB?

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Cost of transfer dampens the used market unless some really good cans are involved for a really good price.

It doesn't matter what you paid for them, it only matters what new ones are selling for now assuming they are not discontinued.

What are you selling for $800 and $600 with a sack of mounts included?
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Imho and expierence about 25% to 35% of the orginal cost, not including the stamp. is the best you can do in the used silencer market. It ls like building a $3000 ar using top quality parts then trying to trade or sell it. It is considered a parts gun with no warranty. You would be lucky to sell it for $1000.00.
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I've got a Suppressed Armament Systems .30 cal Ti Arbiter and when it clears in the next month or so a .30 cal Ti Reaper. Both are amazingly quiet, extremely light, and the customer service is amazing.

I knew I'd take a huge hit, plus throw away my stamp money.

The only thing that is holding me back is that I'd be loud for a LLLOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG time before getting new can's approved. I think that will end up being my stumbling block before the $$$ loss.

Talking to my Class 3 FFL dealer, he's got an amazing deal on Sandman-K suppressors. I'll probably just have the SAS can's live on my larger rifles and have the Sandman-K live on my SBR's (because I'll probably have to buy 2!!!!)
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You said it yourself, a superior product is on the market for $569 new.

Who in their right mind would buy an inferior product, used, for more money? Old MSRP means absolutely nothing. I'd guess their worth $200-300 each.
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Keep in mind that for a buyer with 2 200 taxes, one from you to the dealer, and a second one from the dealer to the buyer, it Is a $400 can even if you gave it away. That is only the tax for ONE can!
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Buy more rifles as hosts for your old cans.

It's the lesser of two evils.

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DrDremel wrote:Keep in mind that for a buyer with 2 200 taxes, one from you to the dealer, and a second one from the dealer to the buyer, it Is a $400 can even if you gave it away. That is only the tax for ONE can!

There's no stamp to the dealer. Dealers don't pay tax stamps.
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SuthDet wrote:
DrDremel wrote:Keep in mind that for a buyer with 2 200 taxes, one from you to the dealer, and a second one from the dealer to the buyer, it Is a $400 can even if you gave it away. That is only the tax for ONE can!

There's no stamp to the dealer. Dealers don't pay tax stamps.
I don't see where anyone said who paid what tax.

When a NFA is transferred out of state it has to go to a dealer in the state seller, from that dealer to a dealer in the state of the buyer and then from the dealer in the state of the buyer to the buyer.

One tax from the seller to the dealer and one tax from the dealer to the buyer. In the case of a suppressor $400.
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doubloon wrote:
SuthDet wrote:
DrDremel wrote:Keep in mind that for a buyer with 2 200 taxes, one from you to the dealer, and a second one from the dealer to the buyer, it Is a $400 can even if you gave it away. That is only the tax for ONE can!

There's no stamp to the dealer. Dealers don't pay tax stamps.
I don't see where anyone said who paid what tax.

When a NFA is transferred out of state it has to go to a dealer in the state seller, from that dealer to a dealer in the state of the buyer and then from the dealer in the state of the buyer to the buyer.

One tax from the seller to the dealer and one tax from the dealer to the buyer. In the case of a suppressor $400.

There is no fee for an individual to dealer, or a dealer to dealer transfer. Dealers don't need a tax stamp, so no tax. Form 3's are free.
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SuthDet wrote:
doubloon wrote:
SuthDet wrote:

There's no stamp to the dealer. Dealers don't pay tax stamps.
I don't see where anyone said who paid what tax.

When a NFA is transferred out of state it has to go to a dealer in the state seller, from that dealer to a dealer in the state of the buyer and then from the dealer in the state of the buyer to the buyer.

One tax from the seller to the dealer and one tax from the dealer to the buyer. In the case of a suppressor $400.

There is no fee for an individual to dealer, or a dealer to dealer transfer. Dealers don't need a tax stamp, so no tax. Form 3's are free.
Form 3's are from one license holder to another.
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To the OP,

I have had the same concerns with a few of my cans. The SBRs could be parted out, destroying the receiver that has the SN on it (my ARs).

From what I last heard, the HPA is still in play, it is just not going to be voted on anytime soon thanks to the shooter in Las Vegas. Politicians have been know to slide something like the HPA in on another bill, at least that is what I am hoping for. In the meantime, I'm making do with what I have.

I'm at an age where estate planning is also a concern. That is why I did the trust thing to begin with. I have instructions to try to donate my NFA items to some deserving non-profit or destroy them.
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I'd estimate 33% of the original price.
Maybe 50% for mounts
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DrDremel wrote:Keep in mind that for a buyer with 2 200 taxes, one from you to the dealer, and a second one from the dealer to the buyer, it Is a $400 can even if you gave it away. That is only the tax for ONE can!
Dealers don't have to pay the $200 tax when they buy or sell anything NFA
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gsyoung54 wrote:
DrDremel wrote:Keep in mind that for a buyer with 2 200 taxes, one from you to the dealer, and a second one from the dealer to the buyer, it Is a $400 can even if you gave it away. That is only the tax for ONE can!
Dealers don't have to pay the $200 tax when they buy or sell anything NFA
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We covered this earlier.

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SilencerShop wrote:If the buyer is in another state, you'll need to do a Form 4 to an FFL/SOT (i.e. Class 3) license holder in that state - and then the FFL will have to do another Form 4 from them to the buyer. Keep in mind that each Form 4 (even to a dealer) requires a $200 tax stamp payment as well as an NFA wait period. On top of that, most FFLs will expect to charge a transfer fee for this service. It's common to transfer a high-value machine gun to another state - which requires 2 tax stamps; but, the value of suppressors typically isn't high enough to justify this double-whammy.
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Dealer to Dealer no tax, individual to dealer 1 tax, individual to individual in same state 1 tax, individual to dealer to dealer in another state to individual 2 tax.

To/From govment agency no tax. Individual to legal heir in estate no tax.
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