Government Shutdown and Filing Times...

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Government Shutdown and Filing Times...

Post by JeffWard » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:45 am

From what I understand... the examiners who run background checks for Form 4s at ATF are on the list of "non-essential" employees...

Would the fucking Democrats pass this s--t, so I can get my new suppressor (check cashed 9/11/18) some time before 2020?

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Post by John A. » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:30 pm

You have been dealing with nfa long enough that you should understand that they don't care if you never get your paperwork back signed. Just more job security for them having a back log.

I also suppose this has killed the fast return times for e-filing too.

I have a F1 laying in the bottom of someones pile collecting dust too. Mailed toward the end of October sometime that I'm not holding my breath getting anytime soon.
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Re: Government Shutdown and Filing Times...

Post by doubloon » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:30 pm

JeffWard wrote:From what I understand... the examiners who run background checks for Form 4s at ATF are on the list of "non-essential" employees...

Would the fucking Democrats pass this s--t, so I can get my new suppressor (check cashed 9/11/18) some time before 2020?

Thanks...
Jeff

From the other thread.

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fishman wrote:The dealer. April forms have been returning. You're still on schedule
According to an article on the web dealer and manufacturer forms are being process by a reduced staff hoping to get paid one day but consumer form 1's and 4' are gathering dust.

If someone were to wait to submit a form 1 or 4 they'd just be farther down the list when the processing starts again.

ETA: A different article from yesterday.

https://www.guns.com/news/2019/01/10/mo ... t-shutdown
“ASA can confirm that the NFA Division is not processing tax-paid transfers during the shutdown,” said the group.

However, while the applications have stalled, the payments sent in for tax stamps on NFA transfers are still being processed by Bank of America, as part of their contract with the government, as the financial institution itself is not affected by the shutdown. Once the checks are cashed, the forms are still heading to the NFA Division where they are piling up.
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Re: Government Shutdown and Filing Times...

Post by John A. » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:35 pm

In all fairness and honesty, any form submitted more than a day prior to the shutdown, should already be processed.

But I'm not holding my breath that would ever happen.

Shortest wait that I ever had was 5 weeks back in 2004 for a form 1 sbr IIRC.
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Re: Government Shutdown and Filing Times...

Post by jvt » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:18 pm

i'm also waiting. it make me wonder how the gun sales are doing.

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Post by doubloon » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:43 am

jvt wrote:i'm also waiting. it make me wonder how the gun sales are doing.
If the P365 is any indication there is no need to wonder.

Unlike the state of the union gun sales are good.
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Post by NationalGunTrusts » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:55 am

We heard that they were processing the Form 3's and the 5320.20 paperwork, but I think that too has no stopped.
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Re: Government Shutdown and Filing Times...

Post by doubloon » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:51 pm

NationalGunTrusts wrote:We heard that they were processing the Form 3's and the 5320.20 paperwork, but I think that too has no stopped.
Source?

ETA:
Searched around and was able to find hearsay indicating some dealers are seeing delays in Form 3's and one that says the ATF is primarily processing only Form 5's for transfers to government and law enforcement agencies.

I couldn't find anything official from the ATF or even anything secondhand from the ATF.

We have a number of manufacturers who frequent this site, at least some of which have good connections into the ATF. Maybe one of them has something they could share to provide some clarity on the topic.
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Re: Government Shutdown and Filing Times...

Post by NationalGunTrusts » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:11 am

We are an SOT dealer too and haven't seen any ATF Form 3's in a week or more. We also have heard that the "ATF primarily processing only Form 5's for transfers to government and law enforcement agencies" too, but for everyone else the paperwork processing has essentially stopped. How long can this shutdown go on? I can only guess how much ATF Paperwork backlog they will have and how that will effect processing timelines for the ATF Paperwork.
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Re: Government Shutdown and Filing Times...

Post by nlvmike » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:04 am

I had 3 with checks cashed in March 2018. I figured I was doomed. Within a few days of the reopening, I got calls on all three of them. Picked them up last week.

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Re: Government Shutdown and Filing Times...

Post by ricsmall » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:43 am

Efile form 1’s are pretty quick. Mine was submitted 1/22/19, approved 2/15/19. Not bad.

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Re: Government Shutdown and Filing Times...

Post by jvt » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:24 am

been waiting over a year now and nothing. what should I do? I think I filed on june 14 last year.

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Post by jimbo45 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:44 am

jvt wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:24 am
been waiting over a year now and nothing. what should I do? I think I filed on june 14 last year.
my last two stamps I got back just a few weeks ago took 14 months total. I had to call and get the examiner and explain how long it had been and that I've already got a bunch of stamps and it magically got approved a week or two after that.

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Re: Government Shutdown and Filing Times...

Post by jvt » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:31 pm

jvt wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:24 am
been waiting over a year now and nothing. what should I do? I think I filed on june 14 last year.
just got a notice that it was declined because lack of information. 18 months of waiting.

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