UPDATED with video: FiveSeven Threading by Tornado Tech

smcharchan · Post by **smcharchan** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:14 am

EDIT: See my video review here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxxxxkq48Qk
___________________________________________

FYI,

I spoke with the nice gal at TT yesterday (forgot her name) regarding threading of FN FiveSeven Pistol Barrels. She said they plan on doing the next run in about 4 weeks.

That said, you have two options if you want to have them thread your barrel. You can send it in immediately, as I am doing, or you can call and ask to be put on the "call list". If added to the call list they will call you just prior to running the next batch so that you can get your barrel to them in time.

(I asked her if it would be ok to share this info here at ST; she said it would be ok.)

flip · Post by **flip** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:16 am

From my communications with them you better plan on about 10 weeks from when she said.

BEASLEY7 · Post by **BEASLEY7** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:43 am

TT must not have run any Mark II barrels since before early Feb. otherwise I'd have mine back. My wife called in April and was told four weeks. In June she was given the optimistic "I don't really know, we are just so busy."

Fireman1291 · Post by **Fireman1291** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:18 am

They have had my Beretta barrel and mark2 barrel for .5x28threading with protector since June 8th. Ive sent PM's just asking what timeline Im looking at here and he hasnt responded. And have seen that he has posted since Ive sent the PMs so hes ignoring me.

If it takes 2 months...fine...but keep me informed about it

flip · Post by **flip** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:49 am

BEASLEY7 wrote:TT must not have run any Mark II barrels since before early Feb. otherwise I'd have mine back. My wife called in April and was told four weeks. In June she was given the optimistic "I don't really know, we are just so busy."

Feb. 10. for me. Called a couple months later and it was 12 weeks, called again 12 weeks later then it was in a couple of weeks, called again bbl is done and shipping, called a week and a half later, oops I was mistaken, we havn't gotten it yet and not sure, maybe next week. Uhhhh, please tell me when my bbl is going to be done, I want a date, no more excuses. If they don't want to do it (even when she said they were going to do all the Rugers) they need to tell me and or send my bbl back. I am getting tired of the lies or excuses, all I want is a set in stone date. Should not be too much problem after 5 1/2 months.

Fireman1291 · Post by **Fireman1291** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:53 am

Wish I would have heard all this before I shipped my barrels off. I understand hes one of the best there is but I would have sent it off to somebody who can deliver in a timely fashion. I heard ADCO was good....

BTW I dont want to seem like im bashing TT but the others here have been way more patient than they should......

flip · Post by **flip** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:00 am

Well the excuse is they are really busy. OK, fine, great I'm glad they are making money, no, really I seriously am. But I think what is happening is people are calling in and throwing hissy fits and they are bumping them up in line or doing the easy money jobs first. I have been really nice to Goldie on the phone, I am not a prick, really. But I am getting tired of getting b/s'd about when my bbl is going to get done. All I want is a set in stone, no b/s date. Either it is going to get done or it isn't.

Mr. Greg · Post by **Mr. Greg** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:38 am

I think publicly releasing information like this would be a huge help, both for TT, and for us. Releasing their anticipated "batch" schedule will GREATLY reduce the number of firearms that they're receiving, and would improve consumer relations by giving them a timetable of when things will be threaded instead of having to deal with "when it's done."

I'd be much more likely to send my barrels to TT if they did this.

Abiqua · Post by **Abiqua** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:41 am

I understand that they are really busy and applaud the new (at least to me) option of being put on a waiting list to send in your work.
They appear to be victims of their own success, a bit overwhelmed by the amount of business that quality work at a fair price has brought them.
I got a call a few weeks ago that my MKIII was ready and then a follow up call to let me know that they made wrong style thread protector. The couple of days that it'd take to make the right one has stretched into weeks. I can understand and forgive the honest mistake but the amount of time making it right seems excesive.

WhiteBuffalo · Post by **WhiteBuffalo** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:24 am

That batch list is a really good idea for them. That should help folks that utilize it. They are really busy, I think they have too many work orders for their size operation. I have tried to shorten the list by asking for my upper back several times this week, with no answer. This will be the only work I send to them and I won't be recommending them to anyone that needs/wants to know what is going on with their property. For those who have extra guns laying around that they can send off and forget, or if you need a "custom" job, TT would seem to be the way to go. For anyone else, I'd shop around.

flip · Post by **flip** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:35 am

Doing the batch thing is fine as long as when you say you are doing a batch the week of whatever you are actually doing it. I guess I am a bit irked by this lack of time frame stuff because I deal with scheduling work for numerous technicians daily and 95% of what gets scheduled gets done on time when promised.

MrM4 · Post by **MrM4** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:36 pm

I was seriously considered having them do a MKII and 2 AR15 barrels but after all that I have read I will either have ADCO do it or find a quality smith do them. I wont do business with any place that has people lining up to ask for their barrels back or that cant give an date for when they will be done.

Their work sounds like its top notch but customer service is important to me, I know they have someone on this forum maybe that person can shed some more light.

chingon · Post by **chingon** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:41 pm

Mike, when you respond to this can you let us know when you will resume Ruger Mark II barrels
Thanks

WhiteBuffalo · Post by **WhiteBuffalo** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:16 pm

MrM4 wrote:I was seriously considered having them do a MKII and 2 AR15 barrels but after all that I have read I will either have ADCO do it or find a quality smith do them. I wont do business with any place that has people lining up to ask for their barrels back or that cant give an date for when they will be done.

Their work sounds like its top notch but customer service is important to me, I know they have someone on this forum maybe that person can shed some more light.

AAA here is the guy that does the work. I don't have any hard feelings about this work order and I'm not trashing the guy, but he has too much work for what he's capable of doing in a timely fashion. Those are just the cold, hard facts. It's not that he's incompatent, or that he's an asshole, or he doesn't have any business sense.... he's just got too much work. I'm sure his operation, from what I've been told, was a fairly smooth one before the Obamanation took hold.

flip · Post by **flip** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:53 pm

MrM4 wrote:I was seriously considered having them do a MKII and 2 AR15 barrels but after all that I have read I will either have ADCO do it or find a quality smith do them. I wont do business with any place that has people lining up to ask for their barrels back or that cant give an date for when they will be done.

Their work sounds like its top notch but customer service is important to me, I know they have someone on this forum maybe that person can shed some more light.

Please don't base your decision not to use TT on my experience. I sent it to them because I wanted perfection (guys here at ST swear by him) that is why I did. The time frame thing has gotten out of hand. If you want to use them see if you can nail them down to a date or or at least what month. Not that it would have mattered at this point but I would have paid extra to get it back sooner. I have a few more guns to do and if TT can guarantee me a done date they will get the work.

ATCDoktor · Post by **ATCDoktor** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:09 pm

Tornado Tech has threaded a dozen barrels for me and I would never trash Mike or the quality of his work but the last batch he did for me will be last ones I send his way till he gets caught up.

It took 22 weeks to complete my barrels and the work completed (while nicely done) was not what was ordered.

Unless you need custom threading that no one else can do, find another smith to do your threading till he gets caught up. You will be happier inthe end right. Right now he's just too busy.

emrisg · Post by **emrisg** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:58 pm

I just got my 77/22 barrel back. It took almost 5 months. Work was top notch and they were super friendly. Everybody seems to understand they are busy so if you can't deal with the wait, send it somewhere else.

saltydecimator · Post by **saltydecimator** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:13 pm

dont know why no-one wants to use this guy.

http://25thctc.com/

i have had him do my stuff and it gets back to me in a matter of 1.5-2.5 weeks. not months. thats ridiculous.

Fireman1291 · Post by **Fireman1291** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:19 pm

emrisg wrote:I just got my 77/22 barrel back. It took almost 5 months. Work was top notch and they were super friendly. Everybody seems to understand they are busy so if you can't deal with the wait, send it somewhere else.

5 months! WTF.

I sent my M92FS barrel to them June8th, I have my 9mm suppressor to be tx on a F3 to my dealer here very shortly. If I get my F4 paperwork back on a suppressor I ordered AFTER my barrel was sent in that is seriously fucked up.

MrM4 · Post by **MrM4** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:11 pm

clearly the guy must be very good at what he does or he would not be so busy, I would rather blow an extra $20 some where else then wait 4-5 months.

WTF is the deal with some of these thread shops not answering phones or even listing a #? It makes me un easy sending a company a barrel who flat out refuses to answer their phones.

Snake-eater 1 · Post by **Snake-eater 1** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:53 pm

At the end of next week he will have had my barrels 6 MONTHS.
I've quit calling, I don't see that it does any good, they don't meet the time frame they state on a phone call.

smcharchan · Post by **smcharchan** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:57 pm

saltydecimator wrote:dont know why no-one wants to use this guy.

http://25thctc.com/

i have had him do my stuff and it gets back to me in a matter of 1.5-2.5 weeks. not months. thats ridiculous.

I didn't see FiveSeven barrels on his webpage.

Fireman1291 · Post by **Fireman1291** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:01 pm

Snake-eater 1 wrote:At the end of next week he will have had my barrels 6 MONTHS.
I've quit calling, I don't see that it does any good, they don't meet the time frame they state on a phone call.

WHAT! A 1911 pistolsmith can built you a one-of faster than that. Thats BS, Mike should thread your barrel for free just to save face. I understand they are busy but 6 months! hahahaha

Can anyone here recommend a gunsmith that can do quality work faster?

NoHair · Post by **NoHair** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:40 pm

At least he is not having the women that work there pose for pictures instead of getting backorders done.

NoHair
P.S. Not that I don't like Goldie, but, well , OK then.

CanNotHear · Post by **CanNotHear** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:46 pm

ATCDoktor wrote:It took 22 weeks to complete my barrels and the work completed (while nicely done) was not what was ordered.

They didn't complete the work as ordered?