THE QMF .45!! NEW RELEASE FROM THOMPSON MACHINE!!! w/ Video

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Post by strobro32 » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:22 pm

GlockandRoll,
I have never heard the QMF in person but that is my HEMS2 and storm lake barrel TM borrowed to make the video. It does sound like that. You can clearly see the water vapor from the muzzle and ejection port in their video.

Here is me shooting my XD45/ HEMS2/ Stormlake barrel with 230 Georgia Arms HP it at 00.55 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/user/mstrombe#p/u/13/QUn0aptgkNY

Try running the two videos side by side on two tabs. The sound is identical.

These guys are for real and I now have enough of their stuff to vouch for their integrity.
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Post by saltydecimator » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:39 pm

Reventon wrote:What is the DB reduction dry/wet?
no meter? you keep asking people if they have questions but this hasnt been answered. sorry to be a douche, but i am curious. it is significantly less expensive than the rest of the competition, so if the numbers arent as good, screw it, it is worth it for the 300 less dollars....
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Post by JacksonBrowne » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:33 pm

Yes, meter results would be beneficial. I'm sure Titsworth would be willing to do so in an unbiased manner.

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Post by LavaRed » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:51 pm

Speaking of testing, there's no real way I could have my suppressor design metered, short of buying my own meter, is there?
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Post by GlockandRoll » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:12 pm

strobro32 wrote:GlockandRoll,
I have never heard the QMF in person but that is my HEMS2 and storm lake barrel TM borrowed to make the video. It does sound like that. You can clearly see the water vapor from the muzzle and ejection port in their video.

Here is me shooting my XD45/ HEMS2/ Stormlake barrel with 230 Georgia Arms HP it at 00.55 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/user/mstrombe#p/u/13/QUn0aptgkNY

Try running the two videos side by side on two tabs. The sound is identical.

These guys are for real and I now have enough of their stuff to vouch for their integrity.
Allow me to rephrase:
I see FUD all day long from MicroSoft and Citrix, trying to discredit what my company does and on the surface, it appears legit... that is untill you peel the layers back and do a scientific comparison.

I'd prefer an unbiased test (captured on video) with mics placed equal distance, same host weapon, same everything, etc... etc.. etc..

Mine sounds quieter than that... period, end of discussion. Maybe yours does not? After all, it is a different suppressor. My stratocaster sounds different than your neighbors, my jeans that are the same size fit different also.

Perhaps yours is defective, perhaps knowing that it is, it was used in the test; how could I know?

I don't have a dollar to gain here, saying one is better than another, but that certainly doesn't ally to the people posting this video now does it?

It is not only unbiased, but gimmicky as well because anyone who has a HEMS-2 should know it doesn't sound like that. Which for the life of me I cant figure out why it sounds like you can here the bullet flight... not too mention I just dislike pistol cans that don't have a Nielson/LCD/booster, device.. they are needed, period.
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Post by Diomed » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:10 am

LavaRed wrote:Speaking of testing, there's no real way I could have my suppressor design metered, short of buying my own meter, is there?
You could get someone to build a copy of your design in the US and meter that. Or you could get someone with an import license to bring it in, but that's going to cost some major money.

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Post by LavaRed » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:50 pm

Diomed wrote:
LavaRed wrote:Speaking of testing, there's no real way I could have my suppressor design metered, short of buying my own meter, is there?
You could get someone to build a copy of your design in the US and meter that. Or you could get someone with an import license to bring it in, but that's going to cost some major money.
Good idea (the copy idea).

I'll have to make a thead about it and see if some of the manufacturers with a meter would care to do it. :D
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Post by Dweezil » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:10 pm

Do Nielsen devices tend to increase the noise level? You, know, ejection port "bark" etc? I ask because there seemed to be a larger cloud of mist coming from the ejection port of the HEMS II in that video. I know LCD's/Neilsen devices take up space in a can that could be used for baffles or useful free volume. Has anybody here done a comparison on the same host with a Nielsen device and their provided fixed barrel spacer? Granted, this may not be an apt comparison as the fixed barrel spacer will also take up air space in the can.

Also, how incredibly stupid would it be for the folks at Thompson Machine to make spurious claims on a site known for LOTS of research on suppressors? Sure, they may sell a few cans in the short term but that gambit would ultimately backfire if independant testing showed they were lying. I doubt they're trying to bullshit us, not when it would be so easily proven.

Worst case scenario. What if they're NOT as quiet as the HEMS II? The QMF is still cheaper, smaller, lighter and can be dissasembled for cleaning. Sound reduction isn't the only variable we consider when buying cans. Lots of YHM's M2's are sold, not because they are the quietest .45 can out there but because we like to be able to clean them.

Remember, AAC used to be a small upstart company too...back when AWC and GEMTECH were the big names in the business. Just sayin'.
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Post by GlockandRoll » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:17 pm

A suppressor w/out an LCD booster should be less expensive, but I still would not want one unless it ran on every stock gun I put it on, with a wide variety of ammo.

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Post by chingon » Thu May 06, 2010 9:53 pm

Will the QMF work on a Glock 30?
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Post by DoctorSolo » Fri May 07, 2010 10:22 am

GlockandRoll a skeptic? LOL

Hows the hydrogen injection holding up? :P

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Re: THE QMF .45!! NEW RELEASE FROM THOMPSON MACHINE!!! w/ V

Post by crf450x » Tue May 25, 2010 2:44 pm

Received my QMF 45 and I'm shooting it on a Springfield XD45 Compact.

Shoots 100%. Have not had any mis feeds. My sons shoot it and they are a little too small so they get a occasional mis feed.

Wet, the can is very very quiet. Like a .22 can quiet. I've shot it with light oil and water. After 10 rounds it starts to get louder. Will try grease next.

With out lube, it sounds like a old M10-45 can but the QMF is way smaller. Still quiet enough to where no hearing protection is needed.

Easy to take apart and clean with the supplied end cap tools.

I'm very happy.

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Post by este » Tue May 25, 2010 3:39 pm

DoctorSolo wrote:GlockandRoll a skeptic? LOL

Hows the hydrogen injection holding up? :P
Wait wha? Please tell me GlockandRoll has a hydrogen / electrolysis setup on his car!!! That would too funny for the guy claiming bullshit on some company he has no experiences with to have bought into that scam!

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Post by [email protected] Machine » Tue May 25, 2010 7:44 pm

CRF450X,

Glad you like your QMF!! :mrgreen:

Also, just to let you guys know, we've upgraded to Ceracoat for the finish on the QMFs. It is a great looking velvety black, and is super tough and temp resistant.
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Post by GlockandRoll » Tue May 25, 2010 10:49 pm

este wrote:
DoctorSolo wrote:GlockandRoll a skeptic? LOL

Hows the hydrogen injection holding up? :P
Wait wha? Please tell me GlockandRoll has a hydrogen / electrolysis setup on his car!!! That would too funny for the guy claiming bullshit on some company he has no experiences with to have bought into that scam!
Do I know either of you douche bags?

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Post by Selectedmarksman » Tue May 25, 2010 11:11 pm

GlockandRoll wrote:
este wrote:
DoctorSolo wrote:GlockandRoll a skeptic? LOL

Hows the hydrogen injection holding up? :P
Wait wha? Please tell me GlockandRoll has a hydrogen / electrolysis setup on his car!!! That would too funny for the guy claiming bullshit on some company he has no experiences with to have bought into that scam!
Do I know either of you douche bags?
That's some old-school ST right there. Attaboy, GlockandRoll. But back to point, I actually can hear the LCD clink back into place on my SWR HEMS (which is a good sign in terms of DB reduction I say) so I can see the benefit to not having one in terms of noise. That said, I agree with GNR, if it won't run reliably I'm not interested. No comment on the QMF made or intended, never handled the thing.
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Post by GlockandRoll » Tue May 25, 2010 11:56 pm

Selectedmarksman wrote: That's some old-school ST right there. Attaboy, GlockandRoll. But back to point, I actually can hear the LCD clink back into place on my SWR HEMS (which is a good sign in terms of DB reduction I say) so I can see the benefit to not having one in terms of noise. That said, I agree with GNR, if it won't run reliably I'm not interested. No comment on the QMF made or intended, never handled the thing.
It may be the smallest, lightest, coolest to the touch, cheapest, etc.
But... if it wont cycle reliablly, then what good is it.

It may, but experience tells me that you need a booster for an auto, except for maybe a beretta or a walther PPK type action.

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Post by Dweezil » Wed May 26, 2010 11:31 am

Mine just shipped...and I"m going to try it on a Glock 36. If it cycles on that, it'll cycle on anything. I actually don't expect it to cycle something that small...and I don't care. If it does, I"ll be pleasantly surprised. Otherwise, hand cycling when I'm just playing around is no big deal. Longer cans just look stupid on a gun that tiny.

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Post by [email protected] Machine » Wed May 26, 2010 11:37 am

If you feel so inclined, I believe that it probably will :twisted: Just degrease first. :roll:
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Post by Dweezil » Thu May 27, 2010 1:59 pm

Just kidding. I have appallingly bad taste but I haven't reached that low yet. Maybe brown.
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Post by strobro32 » Thu May 27, 2010 7:25 pm

I should pick up my QMF in a month. Let us know if it works on the 36 Dweezil.

I'm going to swing by my dealers range and compare it to my HEMSII next week.
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Post by Steve S » Fri May 28, 2010 8:16 pm

[email protected] Machine wrote:Also, per you guys' requests, we're going to post some video of the QMF dry as soon as we get a chance.
Looking forward to seeing that guys. Very impressed with what I've seen so far. Do you experience ANY back blast when shooting "wet"? Do you have any intentions of posting db reduction numbers? I'd love to see John Titsworth do a review on these.......sounds VERY promising!
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Post by mob » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:40 am

anyone heard from brooks lately, ive emailed and PM'd him with no response as to status of my can

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Post by FSCJedi » Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:53 pm

Nevermind. Fixed.

That sounds awesome! I heard my dealer shoot a demo YHM .45 suppressor the other day and I was less than impressed. This sounds awesome!
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Post by BWPerdue » Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:21 am

Has anyone tried this on a 9mm yet?

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