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Which 16 barrel do you think is better?

Medium 'Robert' profile
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Light 'Kevin' profile.
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30%
 
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Help me pick a barrel profile - poll.

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Which barrel would you prefer for a compact rifle (16 inch barrel) in 300 Fireball?

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Weight is about 5.75 pounds (light barrel) or 6.9 lbs with medium barrel.

The medium barrel has a 0.750 OD and 2.5 inches long straight area at the end which would allow an SPR/M4 or SCAR-H type can to be mounted but also has a straight-taper area so is more rigid.

The supersonic bullets should stay supersonic to about 540 yards, so that is what I would call the max range of the rifle. 500 if you want to be conservative.

I had picked the stiffer profile as it may benefit precision (not proven) but Kevin likes the lightest one as he wants a compact/light rifle to be as light as possible. I really could go either way so I wanted to see what most people like.

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I actually kill stuff, Robert is smart and relies on theory!
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I voted for the medium weight, but would really prefer somewhere in between the two.
A straight taper would be neat.
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A full straight taper is heavier than either of these as the line would go all the way down to the 0.750 threaded muzzle rather than to 2.5 inches behind the shoulder as the 'medium' barrel now shows.

Both of these have a 1.25 inch or so cylindrical area for a barrel wrench.

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Go for the heavier barrel (medium), if the weight bothers you then hit the gym you wussie,
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+1 for Kevin.
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Post by snipersubsonic »

ive always like hvy barrels more. ESP if your gonna hang a suppressor on the end of it! so i vote for roberts.
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rsilvers wrote:...compact rifle (16 inch barrel) ...

Weight is about 5.75 pounds (light barrel) or 6.9 lbs with medium barrel.

... 540 yards, so that is what I would call the max range of the rifle. 500 if you want to be conservative.

I had picked the stiffer profile as it may benefit precision (not proven) but Kevin likes the lightest one as he wants a compact/light rifle to be as light as possible. I really could go either way so I wanted to see what most people like.

Vote.
within 500 yards I would ASSUME that even with a light barrel it wouldn't be too hard to adjust the for the shift in POI with the added weight of the suppressor IF it was zeroed without one.


BTW how will this end up looking? Is the barrel profile the only thing that we get to vote on?
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I personally am not concerned that hanging a suppressor on the light barrel is an issue.

I like both profiles and I would take either one.

For me it is just a matter of if the heavier barrel will be more precise (what others call accurate) or not. It is already much lighter than an M24 profile or what David Tubb uses as his profile. I don't consider the heavier one to be 'heavy' but each person has their own thoughts on that. I don't like 'heavy barrels' so that is why I made that profile medium. It is 0.750 3.5 inches from the shoulder.

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http://www.riflebarrels.com/articles/lo ... _rifle.htm

http://www.riflebarrels.com/products/co ... rifles.htm
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Post by lsstokes »

Robert, in your opinion would using a can on a bull barrel have less POI change than a lighter barrel?
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lsstokes wrote:Robert, in your opinion would using a can on a bull barrel have less POI change than a lighter barrel?
Probably in most cases and on average - but I think there are other factors and I don't know for certain enough to use that as a reason to pick the heavier one.
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Post by silencertalk »

Here is what I would call a heavy barrel - this is what a straight taper barrel would like like if it tapered to 0.905 inches at 24 inches - the same as my M24 barrel - but then cut off at 16 inches.

It would be 4.18 lbs.

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If there is no significant POI shift from mounting a suppressor on the thinner barrel I'd go for the lighter weight barrel or ... I'd go with the thinnest barrel that results in the least significant shift in POI. At 16" it's probably no big deal with any of them but I really have no idea.

If you're trying to impress somebody then the thicker the better. :roll:

As for being a wuss if you choose the lighter barrel you can always make up for the lighter barrel by carrying more ammo or supplies. :wink:
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Post by ethanL007 »

I would prefer something in the 2.1 to 2.2 pound range.

You can still sell it as less than 6 pounds, and I bet you can add some stiffness with that quarter pound.
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Post by DeltaPDesign »

I am with Kevin here. For walking and whacking stuff, go with the skinny one, the critter will not know the difference, but you will.

Sounds like the two of you are going pig whacking.
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I prefer the Silvers profile. I think the skinny one would be much more likely to have an unacceptable degree of POI shift. Many states (including mine) do not allow hunting with suppressors, so I would have to shoot it without the can from time to time.
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Conqueror wrote:I prefer the Silvers profile. I think the skinny one would be much more likely to have an unacceptable degree of POI shift. Many states (including mine) do not allow hunting with suppressors, so I would have to shoot it without the can from time to time.
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Kevin at 16", Silvers at 10.5".
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For what it's worth, Kevin's profile is similar to that of the Noveske 16" 300/221 barrel, which I have had great results with from an accuracy standpoint (both suppressed and unsuppressed).
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For a mere pound's difference, I'll go with the heavy barrel, just to be on the safe side.
An M16 weighs what, 6-7lbs? This isn't significantly heavier.
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