Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
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Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
Ready to buy one of the three but I can't make my mind up. Whichever one it is will be used on multiple hosts... AR's, and bolts. I'm completely open to suggestions, like to know the ins and outs of all three.
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Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
I'd go with the 762SD because of the QD mounts. It will be more secure than a thread on, but some will say that doesn't matter.
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Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
762 sd all the way. I am very pleased with it on my AR's, on my 11.5 SBR it is a perfect length, and is killer with everything on my Rem 700. Easy to switch around, and when I get an AR-10 style rifle I'll be good to go. The advantage to me is that I still have the brakes/hiders on all the guns with the can off. The 18T 7.62 brake is good times, but on a range can give the people next to you a concussion. So that could be a plus or minus I suppose.
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Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
One of the employees at my dealer has a 762SD that causes his groups to open up severely. He's been trying to get ahold of AAC to get the problem figured out. He says it mounts tight, no baffle strikes or other obvious problems, but the groups open up considerably.
Due to this, my choice would be one of the Cyclones.
Due to this, my choice would be one of the Cyclones.
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Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
Sticking a silencer on the end of a barrel will change harmonics and will affect group. Shooting a silenced rifle is different than an unsuppressed weapon. Tune the ammunition for the silenced setup if that's how you shoot it the most.
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Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
+1!kalikraven wrote:I'd go with the 762SD because of the QD mounts. It will be more secure than a thread on.
It's less than ideal to run a thread on can on a semi-auto platform. Evertime the bolt/bolt carrier slams closed it acts like a little impact wrench and it will eventually cause your can to work loose on the threads. If you don't notice it happening, then you can get a baffle strike as the can comes loose on the threads (just had this happend to a customer a couple of weeks ago). With a QD can, you can use rockset between the threads on the barrel and the threads on the QD mount, so it's much more secure and you won't have to constantly check to see if the can is coming loose as you're shooting.
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Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
There are a LOT of 762SD's out there, and this is the first time I've heard this complaint....I know mine doesn't cause this. I'd say it's an issue with the gun. To the original poster, +1 on getting a 762SD.Illuminated_one wrote:One of the employees at my dealer has a 762SD that causes his groups to open up severely. He's been trying to get ahold of AAC to get the problem figured out. He says it mounts tight, no baffle strikes or other obvious problems, but the groups open up considerably.
Due to this, my choice would be one of the Cyclones.
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Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
freakshow10mm wrote:Sticking a silencer on the end of a barrel will change harmonics and will affect group. Shooting a silenced rifle is different than an unsuppressed weapon. Tune the ammunition for the silenced setup if that's how you shoot it the most.
The rifle shot fine with the can for some time, and only started doing strange things recently. I know the owner has tried different loads.rockman96 wrote: There are a LOT of 762SD's out there, and this is the first time I've heard this complaint....I know mine doesn't cause this. I'd say it's an issue with the gun. To the original poster, +1 on getting a 762SD.
The owner shoots in 'sniper' matches across the Western US, and has at least one first place trophy that I've seen, so I know he knows what he's doing.
I'll be curious to find out what the problem actually is once he gets it back to AAC.
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Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
Oh, I thought this was a new installation of a suppressor. Yeah, if it has been in use for some time with no issue, then I would send in the rifle with silencer to AAC (provided they accept the system) along with some ammunition used with the system. Something has to be up. Hopefully the crew at AAC will figure something out and get your shooter back on the line.
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Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
You want a QD mount for this type of application. The QD mounts are available in many different threads so you won't have to get your AR barrels threaded 5/8-24. The QD mounts can also be used on lighter sporter bolt gun barrels that are not large enough to have a shoulder for a thread mount silencer.Wrench_V10 wrote:...will be used on multiple hosts... AR's, and bolts.
Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
Illuminated_one wrote:One of the employees at my dealer has a 762SD that causes his groups to open up severely. He's been trying to get ahold of AAC to get the problem figured out. He says it mounts tight, no baffle strikes or other obvious problems, but the groups open up considerably.
Due to this, my choice would be one of the Cyclones.
762-SD for versatility/ ease of switching.
CYCLONE for the quietest performance.
As to the above, certainly not right. The can should tighten groups. Something is wacky.
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Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
Thanks for all the info... exactly what I was looking for. Looks like 762-SD is what it will be. So the next question is 18T vs 51T, or does it not really matter? And are they interchangeable?
Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
If you have a choice I'd say the 51T definitely. Those weren't available when I got mine or I would have one....with that said, the 18T has never caused me any problems, but I keep n eye on it.
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Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
Keep an eye on it for what exactly?rockman96 wrote:If you have a choice I'd say the 51T definitely. Those weren't available when I got mine or I would have one....with that said, the 18T has never caused me any problems, but I keep n eye on it.
Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
I assume he meant keeping an eye on the suppressor backing off of the mount while firing. The 18 tooth is not like the positive ratcheting mechanism of the 51 tooth mounts, so there is the possibility of the suppressor coming loose during firing. The 18 tooth uses two springs to keep it from backing off.Wrench_V10 wrote:Keep an eye on it for what exactly?rockman96 wrote:If you have a choice I'd say the 51T definitely. Those weren't available when I got mine or I would have one....with that said, the 18T has never caused me any problems, but I keep n eye on it.
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Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
Will an older (2009 model) 7.62SD designed to work with the 18T Blackout, work with the 51T Blackout as well? Or are the springs different between the older and newer cans?
My Dealer has last years model in stock and I cant decide either.
My Dealer has last years model in stock and I cant decide either.
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Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
It will not lock up well on the 51T mount. I'd be really concerned about it backing off.HotLead wrote:Will an older (2009 model) 7.62SD designed to work with the 18T Blackout, work with the 51T Blackout as well? Or are the springs different between the older and newer cans?
My Dealer has last years model in stock and I cant decide either.
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Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
Has anyone confirmed the new 51T 762-SD will mount on an AR-15 with a 1/2-28 51T mount for a M4-2K?
I would figure that is should but I have not heard anyone confirm this. I'm expecting many of my customers will be interested in using the new 762-SD on their 5.56mm and 7.62mm AR family rifles and others.
I would figure that is should but I have not heard anyone confirm this. I'm expecting many of my customers will be interested in using the new 762-SD on their 5.56mm and 7.62mm AR family rifles and others.
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Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
It will.SUB-MG wrote:Has anyone confirmed the new 51T 762-SD will mount on an AR-15 with a 1/2-28 51T mount for a M4-2K?
I would figure that is should but I have not heard anyone confirm this. I'm expecting many of my customers will be interested in using the new 762-SD on their 5.56mm and 7.62mm AR family rifles and others.
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Re: Can't decide 762-SD, Cyclone, or Cyclone-K?
get the 7.62sd, I have one for my M25 White Feather, my DSA OSW my 7.62x39 XCR and my DTA SRS its real convenient to switch from host to host and still have FH or brakes. (Have not shot the m1a suppressed yet)