If you use this website please update your information, this will help everybody.

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I've updated 2 current transfers there in the last week. A great resource.

Yeah, a lot of the N. Flannigan ones are incomplete. Unless she has slowed down even more,,,

coyote223 wrote:Yeah, a lot of the N. Flannigan ones are incomplete. Unless she has slowed down even more,,,

She's slow I have a form 4 pending with her since March 2nd

I updated last week. Fingers crossed Santamaria and Frushour get them done soon. Looks like 40ish days from pending to approved for them lately.

coyote223 wrote:Yeah, a lot of the N. Flannigan ones are incomplete. Unless she has slowed down even more,,,

Yeah she is doing mine and either nobodys updating or she's gone vacation or something.

boomer45 wrote:

coyote223 wrote:Yeah, a lot of the N. Flannigan ones are incomplete. Unless she has slowed down even more,,,

She's slow I have a form 4 pending with her since March 2nd

That is NOT what I need to hear, my Osprey went pending with her on June 16

boomer45 wrote:

coyote223 wrote:Yeah, a lot of the N. Flannigan ones are incomplete. Unless she has slowed down even more,,,

She's slow I have a form 4 pending with her since March 2nd

I was hoping she became a little more efficient, doesn't look that way.



I just sent a form 4 to her,,,

I update it - except sometimes I don't even call about status, so I can't get the pending date. I rarely will call for status on a Form 1 - because it's coming directly to me. Calling for a Form 4 is different, because there is another party in the loop you have to rely on. So, I call just to make sure I'm not getting fucked by a dealer (to put it bluntly)

I've tried calling Ms. Flanigan for a week now.
No answer.

She was very helpful and understanding when I last spoke with her.

Perhaps she's on vacation or sick.

Yes it is oh so important that we monitor the transfer times, and call the NFA branch every day on our transfers because all that worrying about it will change exactly nothing.

It is like waiting for death, it takes how long it takes, and that is it.

ducati wrote:I've tried calling Ms. Flanigan for a week now.
No answer.

She was very helpful and understanding when I last spoke with her.

Perhaps she's on vacation or sick.

I wonder if its worth trying to call and find out who her supervisor is and finding out whats going on.
Seems like a lot of folks(me included) are having some long waits on her.

David Hineline wrote:Yes it is oh so important that we monitor the transfer times, and call the NFA branch every day on our transfers because all that worrying about it will change exactly nothing.

It is like waiting for death, it takes how long it takes, and that is it.

Nobody said to call every day, after the normal 3 month wait, a guy starts to wonder. Nancy held on to my last one for 5 months before she finally approved it. You can pretty much tell who is efficient, and who is not so efficient, by this chart. Not trying to change the world here. Just get an idea of how long of a wait, the particular examiner we are stuck with will subject us to.

David Hineline wrote:Yes it is oh so important that we monitor the transfer times, and call the NFA branch every day on our transfers because all that worrying about it will change exactly nothing.

It is like waiting for death, it takes how long it takes, and that is it.

David, I agree with you - except like I said.... if you never call about a Form 4, and it's sitting their approved at a dealer, and he doesn't call you because he "hasn't gotten around to it," you've just been fucked. I'm not talking about the form sitting at your dealer for a day or a week. But it could be a month - you never know. People aren't perfect.

And yes, I know your answer is "find another dealer" (and that would be my answer too) but everyone is human, and even the best dealers can slip sometimes. I'm just a person who keeps on top things. But like I said, sometimes it's worthless calling - I don't call for Form 1's.... they are coming to me, so there is no use calling.

And as far as the website - I think it's awesome that we have something to measure a government agency's performance. God knows they need it - considering the measures of performance put in place at most government agencies don't work and will never work. I can say that, because I used to be a part of one of those agencies.

s--t, if I'm paying $200 to shuffle some paper around and fund a housing project or whatever the hell the money goes to - I want to know how fast they shuffle the paper.

I had one go pending March 12 with Nancy and I'm still pending too.

m1garand30064 wrote:I had one go pending March 12 with Nancy and I'm still pending too.

Damn...thats just wrong man....if i have to wait that long i don't think i would go through this crap again.

texjames wrote:

m1garand30064 wrote:I had one go pending March 12 with Nancy and I'm still pending too.

Damn...thats just wrong man....if i have to wait that long i don't think i would go through this crap again.

Is see the data page does weed out those without any patience from the process, so I was wrong about it not service a purpose.

Nevermind.

I knew that was coming

Barbara Payne - anybody? Pending since may 5

Flanigan is my examiner too. Spoke with her a couple weeks ago and she had over 2,000 forms on her desk.

I would not be surprised if a lot of the delay for non-trust form 4s is with the FBI. My understanding is they have to send out the fingerprint cards and wait on them to come back.

The thing about gov. bureaucracy is the justification for the jobs held. If it were efficient, there would be good reason to lay-off people, and people don't want to be laid off. It's just human nature for a job to always fill the time available for it.

Queso Grande wrote:If you use this website please update your information, this will help everybody.

When you call about yours, tell Mrs Snook to get to mine so I can update NFAtracker... I most likely won't get my approval till September.

Jeremy

Downrange wrote:I would not be surprised if a lot of the delay for non-trust form 4s is with the FBI. My understanding is they have to send out the fingerprint cards and wait on them to come back.

I believe that's true, but many transfers are now done with trusts, requiring no fingerprint cards, and they're no faster either. Not anymore.

Probably true, in general, but what prompted my comment is noticing two of Ted C's "trust" form 4s got done in two months or less, while my indiv. is still pending with him since early April.

shutrbkr wrote:Barbara Payne - anybody? Pending since may 5

I had a form one that was pending with her on 4/15/10, approved 6/10/10 and arrived at my house on 6/14/10.