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Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:26 pm
by heliguy
Still new to suppressors. Live in TX a friend a few towns away wants to borrow my Outback 2 for the weekend. Is this within the BATF rules?

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:32 pm
by sonanth
The short answer: No.

The long answer: Hell No.

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:39 pm
by Ctaylor
What sonanth said. Doing this will land you in federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison.

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:47 pm
by Selectedmarksman
You must be physically present for it's use. The only time that suppressor can leave your possession is if you are sending it back to the manufacturer for repair or it's locked up good and tight in your safe.

I don't have any friends worth risking the consequences for. Why not take your friend shooting? So long as you are there, and the NFA item is under your control, all is well.

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:11 pm
by heliguy
Thanks to all of you for clearing this up!

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:48 pm
by kaotic504
well if it's a part of a Trust and you add them as Trustees, i guess they can. not 100% sure on that though.

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:20 pm
by dvdivx
That's a big advantage of trusts. My wife can possess the suppressors because she's listed in the trust. You do have to be careful with who is listed however and make sure to have an attorney make sure the trust is valid for your state as well.

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:22 pm
by renegade
Ctaylor wrote:What sonanth said. Doing this will land you in federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison.
Doubtful, but it is not a good idea.

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:46 pm
by Ctaylor
renegade wrote:
Ctaylor wrote:What sonanth said. Doing this will land you in federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison.
Doubtful, but it is not a good idea.

Well yes it's hyperbole, but only to re-inforce that it's definitely NOT a good idea.


Plus it's a quote from Office Space.

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:39 am
by Kramer
Ctaylor wrote: Doing this will land you in federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison.

Plus it's a quote from Office Space.

Love that movie!

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:38 am
by Fireman1291
dvdivx wrote:That's a big advantage of trusts. My wife can possess the suppressors because she's listed in the trust. You do have to be careful with who is listed however and make sure to have an attorney make sure the trust is valid for your state as well.

This

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:50 pm
by Bowen1911
Kramer wrote:
Ctaylor wrote: Doing this will land you in federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison.

Plus it's a quote from Office Space.

Love that movie!


yeeeeaaaaa.... if you could come in on sunday that would be greeeeaaat. yeeaaaaaa

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:07 pm
by saltydecimator
so we are not going to white collar resort prison then?!

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:46 pm
by Landry308
What about conjugal visits ?????

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:52 pm
by 700PSS
Has anyone seen my stapler?

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:35 pm
by Kramer
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Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:53 pm
by sonanth
So....another question is: Once an item is listed under a trust, submitted and Form 4 all processed and all that, can you change the trust to add a person, say like a wife, to it? What is the process involved in that?

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:03 pm
by glocker17
Yes you can amend your trust, I have made a change to mine. It was not a big deal to add an amendment.

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:39 am
by Beretta Steel
When you admended you trust did you resubmit your trust to the ATF or just have it noterized?

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:15 am
by J Krammes
glocker17 wrote:Yes you can amend your trust, I have made a change to mine. It was not a big deal to add an amendment.
Was it a Quicken Trust or other? I would like to add my Dad as a trustee to mine and I am not sure how to do it.

Jeremy

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:20 am
by 700PSS
Kramer wrote:Image
That's it! I've been looking all over for that! :lol:

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:54 am
by renegade
Beretta Steel wrote:When you admended you trust did you resubmit your trust to the ATF or just have it noterized?
You do not resubmit it. Just do whatever is legally require in you state to amend the trust.

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:38 pm
by Ctaylor
700PSS wrote:
Kramer wrote:Image
That's it! I've been looking all over for that! :lol:
Funny story, Swingline actually didn't make a stapler in red before that movie came out, but after it came out SO many people called about it that they decided to make one.

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:46 pm
by morpheus
If the suppressor in on a Form 4 through a NFA trust, ad him to the trust and he is good to go.

Re: Can a friend borrow a suppressor?

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:45 pm
by ick
Print out a couple of these and keep them in your range bag.

http://www.ick.bz/firearms