Can the P3AT/LCP be suppressed?

[pneumagger]

I know the barrel has that funny "bell" shape on the end of it... but couldn't a barrel maker just be able to make an extended identically profiled barrel with threads and include and adapter to 1/2-28?

Also, I was looking closely at the action and clearances while hand cycling. I'm not sure that the bell shaped cut in the barrel is even required. I'm interested in filling the barrel profile in with some non-permanent filler to see if the pistol could function with a smooth barrel.

I think one of these new wet mini suppressors (Thompson/Degroat/etc) would be perfrct for a little LCP or P3AT.
They fire small capacity cartridges with inherently subsonic velocities.

[este]

Also, I was looking closely at the action and clearances while hand cycling. I'm not sure that the bell shaped cut in the barrel is even required.

I can't comment on anything else other than a lesson I have learned over the years. There are rarely features on the working parts of guns that aren't required. They are very efficient in that respect.

It's probably for lockup tightness / accuracy? I suppose you could turn it down to take a threaded extension that has that same shape in it.

[James DeGroat]

I've looked at those pistols as I thought about putting a Nano on them. My thought at the time I was checking the pistols out that it was too much of a PITA to get a threaded barrel on that gun that it wasn't worth it.

I'm sure it could be done, but it wouldn't be easy to pull it off.

[doubloon]

I think the Kahr 380 should be much easier since it has a straight barrel instead of that pinch like the LCP/P3AT.

Have you looked at the Kahr 380 Mr. DeGroat?

[James DeGroat]

I think the Kahr 380 should be much easier since it has a straight barrel instead of that pinch like the LCP/P3AT.

Have you looked at the Kahr 380 Mr. DeGroat?

I have and I don't see why the Kahr couldn't be threaded.

[doubloon]

I thought so too but Steve over at ADCO said he could not thread and adapt the Kahr for me. I may have to talk to you when I get it back.

[-k-]

One problem is that the barrel walls are thin, right where there is a significant amount of stress. The area where the front of the barrel locks up with the slide gets battered pretty hard on most semi autos. Now you want to add a threaded adaptor right there and more weight on the end of the barrel.

The depth of the threads is effectively lost barrel wall thickness on a tiny barrel.

[doubloon]

OP, Apologies for the original thread sort of being hijacked but the material is still somewhat relative to the original problem.

-k-, I understand what your saying but how deep do the threads have to be on the adapted end assuming decent stainless materials?

The threads on the business end are limited to 1/2" OAL at 28TPI but (in the case of the Kahr) the threads on the adapted end could conceivably run much longer.

If it isn't obvious by now I am no machinist so feel free to get a good laugh from the next question.

Could a longer run of shallower cut threads maybe even in a different pitch make up some of the strength?

I seem to recall someone once saying they threaded a PF9 and it has a pinched barrel as well ... see lower right portion of picture below.
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s120 ... /4-big.jpg

[saltydecimator]

My thoughts on the subhect are, 380s arent meant to be shot alot, so puttin a buncha money into a '' disposable '' gun seems kinda pointless...that is accirding to the local range that used to rent them but no longer does because they wont stand up to continous use abuse...

that being said i have a sig 230 32acp with fixed barrel that just begs for a threaded barrel. And i will do it eventually.

[DaggerSix]

Taken from another site

http://www.orl-llc.com/images/2008/RUGER-lcp/index.htm

Seems like the suppressor is welded permanently on the slide itself

http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/def ... essor.html

[curtistactical]

The undercut in the barrel is needed, it lets the barrel have enough room to get it in/out of the slide. Yes you can suppress it but it is a huge pita. You could have an extension welded on the barrel that you could put a thread adapter on once the gun was assembled. Bersa thunder 380's are larger but very easy to suppress because of the fixed barrel. I honestly wonder how well the action on a keltek would hold up.