Silencerco Osprey vs SWR Octane-9 9mm Silencer? or ????

[stmcelroy]

Looking at getting my first center fire handgun silencer and had pretty much decided on the Osprey until seeing the new Octane-9.

I'm looking at a dry hearing safe can for use primarily on my Glock 19 & 17. I'd also like to keep the length as short as possible.

Currently I own a SWR Spectre that I use on a Browning Buckmark that does the job.

I'm not made of money, but have enough set aside to afford either of these, but also wouldn't mind spending less.

So is the Osprey a better choice, or should I save the $150 and get the SWR?

I know that know one has fired a Octane-9 yet, but figure it will perform similar to the Trident-9.

Appreciate any help.[;)]

[Bowen1911]

user servicable- get it.

[stmcelroy]

user servicable- get it.

Worth giving up a few decibels and longer?

I'm leaning this way, figure the savings almost pays for the stamp.

[wi75]

grabbing the popcorn on this one

[Bowen1911]

I cast bullets, so it would be worth it to me.


plus it would also look better on a AR 22 than a 22 can


I would get the HD version as well. I like stainless

[este]

If you only shoot 9, the Octane.

If you shoot 45 as well, I would do the Osprey45 with 9mm threaded pistons.

While I like the idea of serviceable, unless I use it on 22, I doubt I'll fill a can up with my shooting habits.

[GlocksInMySocks]

I would just wait until after shot and people have had some time to do tests on everything that's new. We have yet to hear from AAC or Silencerco, so they could still have a card up their sleeve.

It looks like the major is planning on doing some extensive tests on his entire inventory, so you should get some solid numbers on everything pretty soon. I'm from the school of thought being that if i'm about to buy something that's goin to be with me for life, it's goin to be the best of what's around at the time.

[stmcelroy]

I would just wait until after shot and people have had some time to do tests on everything that's new. We have yet to hear from AAC or Silencerco, so they could still have a card up their sleeve.

It looks like the major is planning on doing some extensive tests on his entire inventory, so you should get some good numbers on everything pretty soon. I'm from the school of thought being that if i'm about to buy something that's goin to be with me for life, it's goin to be the best of what's around at the time.

That's probably a good idea, but i've got money burning a hole in my pocket....

[GlocksInMySocks]

ha, I know the feeling. I've come very close to pulling the trigger on a few things this week

[ThePatriot]

I would just wait until after shot and people have had some time to do tests on everything that's new. We have yet to hear from AAC or Silencerco, so they could still have a card up their sleeve.

It looks like the major is planning on doing some extensive tests on his entire inventory, so you should get some solid numbers on everything pretty soon. I'm from the school of thought being that if i'm about to buy something that's goin to be with me for life, it's goin to be the best of what's around at the time.

Agreed. It will be helpful to hear the MAJ weigh in on all of these new silencers.

[NFA-Addict]

If we get any actual user reports on the Octane before June I'll be surprised. But I'd still jump straight on that Octane over the Osprey. That is one sweet can! I don't really need another 9mm can, but it will probably be the next thing I buy.

[Theprofessor]

If you cast your own lead, probably the Octane unless you can "dip" an Osprey and clean it how it is. Not sure bout that one.
If not, Osprey all the way. As an owner of a 45 Osprey, I cant be happier with my purchase. Also, I'm pretty sure you can send your Osprey back to Silencerco and have them rebuild it for a cheap price (not sure what that price is exactly) WITHOUT having to pay another tax stamp. That right there was a major selling point for me. If something ever happens to my Osprey and I need some parts replaced I wont have to pay a stamp or even worse wait for a stamp. Silencerco's customer service is top notch. It will take a LOT of FMJ rounds through that Osprey to start to impact the performance. Just my 2 cents.

[psp7]

I dont understand why anyone would sacrifice db reduction for user takedown abiltity on anything but the filthy 22 rimfire. Unless you intend to shoot 22 rimfire through your 9mm then its a no-brainer in getting the shorter and quieter Osprey. Even if you do fill up the Osprey with lead head 9mm I'm sure SilCo will take care of ya.

[stmcelroy]

I dont understand why anyone would sacrifice db reduction for user takedown abiltity on anything but the filthy 22 rimfire. Unless you intend to shoot 22 rimfire through your 9mm then its a no-brainer in getting the shorter and quieter Osprey. Even if you do fill up the Osprey with lead head 9mm I'm sure SilCo will take care of ya.

That's pretty much what I have decided.

[Bowen1911]

I dont understand why anyone would sacrifice db reduction for user takedown abiltity on anything but the filthy 22 rimfire. Unless you intend to shoot 22 rimfire through your 9mm then its a no-brainer in getting the shorter and quieter Osprey. Even if you do fill up the Osprey with lead head 9mm I'm sure SilCo will take care of ya.

38 special?
cast 9mm?

looks better in the handguard of a .22 AR?



For me (and this is me, not the whole buyers market), take-down-ability is IMPORTANT. I don't pay the extra premium price for the world's cleanest powders, and I cast to keep costs down even more (and to hope my babies have 3 eyes or something )

[rugerglocker]

I dont understand why anyone would sacrifice db reduction for user takedown abiltity on anything but the filthy 22 rimfire. Unless you intend to shoot 22 rimfire through your 9mm then its a no-brainer in getting the shorter and quieter Osprey. Even if you do fill up the Osprey with lead head 9mm I'm sure SilCo will take care of ya.

Wrong. As others have mentioned, reloaders and boolit casters would very much appreciate a takedown center-fire can. Not to mention you can also shoot 22lr, ever notice all the threads about "jail-breaking" cans. From what I've heard 'Tits has shown regular (commercial/jacketed?) center-fire eventually dirties up a can to the point of losing your precious few dBs--if you give what he says any merit. I have a Trident, I wish I could take it apart for those reasons.

I think the Ideal can would be like a giant Silencerco SS sparrow (either 9mm or 45) or some sort of hybrid between that and the Osprey. I actually talked to a guy at a range here in UT about this. Said he works for Get Some (UT class 3 w/ ties to S-Co) and I think he basically blew me off saying something like "no one would want a can like that." Well I think there are plenty of people on here that would say otherwise, casters? 22lr shooters? people that like clean s--t?

You hear that Silencer Co? Make a giant SS Sparrow or an Osprey with clamshells! You already have the design, look @ all the people jumping up and down about the Octane because you can fuckin take it apart + SS!

Uff that was a long post, sry

[rockman96]

I dont understand why anyone would sacrifice db reduction for user takedown abiltity on anything but the filthy 22 rimfire. Unless you intend to shoot 22 rimfire through your 9mm then its a no-brainer in getting the shorter and quieter Osprey. Even if you do fill up the Osprey with lead head 9mm I'm sure SilCo will take care of ya.

What makes you think that the Octane is louder than the Osprey? Did I miss something somewhere? The Octane isn't even out there for the independents to test and compare yet (I asked Bryon about the performance, and he said he hasn't even shot one yet), and you CAN'T compare readings from different manufacturers 'cause there are way too many variables involved for that to be an accurate indicator. Knowing first hand the reputation and quality that SWR puts out, I'll be surprised if the Octane loses in a side by side test, especially with the proven performance of their Trident, and I don't think they would release a new can without trimming a few dB's in the process. With all of that being said, I'm not dissing Silencerco or the Osprey...in actual use the difference between them is probably minimal. Most likely anyone would be happy with either can's performance.

ETA: I just saw the dB numbers for the Octane in the other thread. I don't know where they fall in with the Trident or the Osprey, maybe I spoke too soon. I still say for meaningful results, the testing needs to be done at the same time and conditions. And I still say that either way, the differences will be negligible, so it boils down more to taste and features than numbers. Also remember, the tone makes more of a difference in perceived volume than the numbers sometimes.

[psp7]

Its highly unlikely the Octane is quieter than the Osprey. When you design a can to be taken apart you generally sacrifice a few DBs due to the loosened tolerances to being able to take it apart when dirty. Unless the Octane is another typical SWR or AAC super long silo silencer then maybe it will be as quiet as the squat 9mm Osprey. As for needing take down ability for a centerfire cartridge I think its not needed unless you're a cheapskate and buy filthy powder, dirty ammo or like mentioned you use your 22 rimfire through it.

[rugerglocker]

Its highly unlikely the Octane is quieter than the Osprey. When you design a can to be taken apart you generally sacrifice a few DBs due to the loosened tolerances to being able to take it apart when dirty. Unless the Octane is another typical SWR or AAC super long silo silencer then maybe it will be as quiet as the squat 9mm Osprey. As for needing take down ability for a centerfire cartridge I think its not needed unless you're a cheapskate and buy filthy powder, dirty ammo or like mentioned you use your 22 rimfire through it.

Obviously you don't roll your own.

[Bowen1911]

Its highly unlikely the Octane is quieter than the Osprey. When you design a can to be taken apart you generally sacrifice a few DBs due to the loosened tolerances to being able to take it apart when dirty. Unless the Octane is another typical SWR or AAC super long silo silencer then maybe it will be as quiet as the squat 9mm Osprey. As for needing take down ability for a centerfire cartridge I think its not needed unless you're a cheapskate and buy filthy powder, dirty ammo or like mentioned you use your 22 rimfire through it.

Obviously you don't roll your own.

its an elite club who make form 1 cans.... (assuming thats what you meant by rolling your own)

unless you mean reloading and casting, which again is an elite club


I'm glad to see I am a cheapskate, because I am a full time college student, so buying everything premium really isn't always in my interests, especially something disposable.

and manufacturers tend to listen to the market, and with the amount of jail broken cans, the market has spoken

[rockman96]

Its highly unlikely the Octane is quieter than the Osprey. When you design a can to be taken apart you generally sacrifice a few DBs due to the loosened tolerances to being able to take it apart when dirty. Unless the Octane is another typical SWR or AAC super long silo silencer then maybe it will be as quiet as the squat 9mm Osprey. As for needing take down ability for a centerfire cartridge I think its not needed unless you're a cheapskate and buy filthy powder, dirty ammo or like mentioned you use your 22 rimfire through it.

Well, we'll see. Like I said, either one is going to be respectable, so it doesn't matter a whole lot. As for "cheapskate", you don't even know what you're talking about there, and then coming from someone who says that trying to suppress a 5.56 or .308 is a useless waste of time and money. So, go ahead and roll your eyes.

[psp7]

rocko, Yes, If you want quiet then indeed a .223 or .308 is generally a waste of money given the $1,000 plus price tag, but I can see its benefit for the military though. Nothing quiet about a supersonic crack for hunting . As for reloading your own 9mm its hardly a win unless you do alot of shooting, its not like the benefit of reloading a 44 or 45. If you intend to save money on a lesser takedown silencer then you probably dont shoot alot given the budget mindedness in selecting a product that is a long term investment. 9mm ammo is relatively cheap at $9-13 a box of 50. You can spin it any way you want but I honestly dont see a benefit to sacrificing a few DBs for being able to take apart a 9mm suppressor made for a generally clean shooting centerfire cartridge. Its more of marketing than anything else. Most likely a spin off from the 22 rimfire demand for a take down which is actually well deserved and needed. I see AAC is now offering takedown on the Tirant too. It will be interesting if they claim it will be equally quiet as the sealed original version and what the tests reflect.

[Bowen1911]

can you stand by a meter and tell the difference of 2 decibels on an impulse noise?

[psp7]

These unnecessary centerfire cartridge take-down cans will begin an incessant headache in warranty issues for the manufacturers with customers having problems with assembly and fit Fixing a nonexistant issue by listening to what people think they need by whats being repeated in small circles

[Bowen1911]

its not a "this is the most logical thing we can think of because we assume the end user is a moron" business, but a "will this make us more money" type of business