Silent Destroyer ??

can2suppress · Post by **can2suppress** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:22 pm

I am trying to decide on a integral 44mag. I think I am going with a Silent Destroyer. Do they come all the way apart for cleaning? Does anyone have pics of the inside or disassembly? I like that he recomends lead bullets..

Thanks!

tReznr · Post by **tReznr** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:12 pm

Yes, the suppressor comes apart for cleaning. I got a chance to speak with John Denall at a gun show (the guy who builds the silent destroyer) and he told me he designed his system from the ground up to shoot cheap cast lead bullets.

Crosshair · Post by **Crosshair** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:38 pm

Yes it comes completely apart. The inner tube is permanently attached so it is a one stamp gun, the baffles are all removable, the outer registered tube basically functions as the main blast chamber. A nice way to get a one stamp take-apart integral. (The barrel is 9" long)

I need to take mine apart as I have lube in there that rattles around. I'll see if I get around to taking it all apart and snapping some photos.

He designed his from the start to use lead bullets. A very nice feature, even store bought cast bullets are significantly cheaper than jacketed. If you cast your own you can get REALLY cheap bullets.

coctailer · Post by **coctailer** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:54 pm

Some really crappy pics of one of my SDs apart.

coyote223 · Post by **coyote223** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:31 am

Interesting, wondered how that worked. ^ ^ ^

Have ya accuracy tested it?

can2suppress · Post by **can2suppress** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:37 am

What are the tubes made of ?? It looks like aluminum. Baffles?

sputzie · Post by **sputzie** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:14 am

Its aluminum and the wait is very long, especially now that Ruger started making 77/44s again. I live close to Tom and I still couldnt get my 77/44 done in a timely manner so I just had him thread my 77/44 so I can now mount my Osprey 45. Just as quiet

. He let me test his display Silent Destroyer and it has an interesting "ping" to it when fired. Tom thinks its gas. Very quiet nevertheless. It may not be quite as quiet as the SRT unit, but at least you can take it apart to clean. Tom cuts the barrel down to 9", while SRT ports their full length.

can2suppress · Post by **can2suppress** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:40 pm

Baffels are made of what?? Blast baffel, Stainless?

sputzie · Post by **sputzie** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:58 pm

can, I'm pretty sure aluminum, except the blast baffle is probably steel.

sputzie · Post by **sputzie** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:58 pm

can, I'm pretty sure aluminum, except the blast baffle is probably steel.

JC Weaponry · Post by **JC Weaponry** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:21 am

I sold my 96/44 Lever Action Silent Destroyer.... and now on the eventual hunt for a 77/44 to replace it. I never should have sold it. (but it did help fund another M11/9)

can2suppress · Post by **can2suppress** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:00 am

What kind of accuracy do you get ??

coctailer · Post by **coctailer** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:27 pm

can2suppress wrote:What kind of accuracy do you get ??

Minute of apple at 30 yds.

Most fun way to explode fruit ever.

can2suppress · Post by **can2suppress** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:54 pm

Are you serious?? I went to the Creek yesterday. I talked with a couple of people.. I.e. John Tibbets and S&H.. I have one of John's MkII's and well pleased. several of the dealers bragged on both. John said it was ok to shoot lead bullets in his. But Do not remove the tube. Just the baffle stack. He also said that the barrel was ported with EDM so burrs are not a problem. How many rounds do you guys fire without a suppressor cleaning. Is buildup in the tube a problem??

coctailer · Post by **coctailer** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:34 pm

can2suppress wrote:Are you serious?? I went to the Creek yesterday. I talked with a couple of people.. I.e. John Tibbets and S&H.. I have one of John's MkII's and well pleased. several of the dealers bragged on both. John said it was ok to shoot lead bullets in his. But Do not remove the tube. Just the baffle stack. He also said that the barrel was ported with EDM so burrs are not a problem. How many rounds do you guys fire without a suppressor cleaning. Is buildup in the tube a problem??

I meant 30 feet.

They are accurate enough I guess. I never tried shooting for groups.

I only shoot JHPs through mine. Never bothered with lead. The rounds look cooler in the can that way anyway.

I'm not a re-loader, so I have to use my buddies Dillon that is set up for .44mag subs. (I can pull a handle)

I do think the Silent destroyer is a better rifle than the SRT offering though. I have shot them side-by side a few times.

Twinsen · Post by **Twinsen** » Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:20 am

JC Weaponry wrote:I sold my 96/44 Lever Action Silent Destroyer.... and now on the eventual hunt for a 77/44 to replace it. I never should have sold it. (but it did help fund another M11/9)

Oh? I'm looking to get a 96/44 integral done. Was looking at my options now that I'm sure I'm serious.

coyote223 · Post by **coyote223** » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:22 am

coctailer wrote:
I do think the Silent destroyer is a better rifle than the SRT offering though. I have shot them side-by side a few times.

Not arguing with ya buddy, just curious, why the SD is a better rifle? Isn't the only difference between them, basically that one comes apart, one doesn't? Or is there more?

Twinsen · Post by **Twinsen** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:38 am

can2suppress wrote:He also said that the barrel was ported with EDM so burrs are not a problem. How many rounds do you guys fire without a suppressor cleaning. Is buildup in the tube a problem??

They port the barrel?! WTF! I was hoping to shoot supersonics and subsonics. Not load with more powder just to lose velocity... ugh.

coctailer wrote:I do think the Silent destroyer is a better rifle than the SRT offering though. I have shot them side-by side a few times.

Men planning on laying down several paychecks wonder what those differences are. Please explain, sir.

can2suppress · Post by **can2suppress** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:16 pm

Tibbets told me that he ports the barrel not to bleed of speed but to eliminate first round pop.. I want the most quiet and accuracy.. The best of both.

coctailer · Post by **coctailer** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:30 pm

coyote223 wrote:
coctailer wrote:
I do think the Silent destroyer is a better rifle than the SRT offering though. I have shot them side-by side a few times.

Not arguing with ya buddy, just curious, why the SD is a better rifle? Isn't the only difference between them, basically that one comes apart, one doesn't? Or is there more?

The eccentric design lowers the can so you don't need tall scope rings, comes apart easily with custom tools that TD provides free with each conversion.
"Silent Destrroyer" is engraved on each receiver, so you have PROOF that you are a TRUE OPERATOR.

Sound wise they are almost exactly the same to the ear.

coctailer · Post by **coctailer** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:31 pm

tReznr wrote:Yes, the suppressor comes apart for cleaning. I got a chance to speak with John Denall at a gun show (the guy who builds the silent destroyer) and he told me he designed his system from the ground up to shoot cheap cast lead bullets.

I cant find the video of you shooting my SD. Do you have it by chance?

Twinsen · Post by **Twinsen** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:45 am

Is "Tibbets" related to Tom Denall somehow? I'm trying to figure out how to buy one of these.

tReznr · Post by **tReznr** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:27 am

coctailer wrote:
tReznr wrote:Yes, the suppressor comes apart for cleaning. I got a chance to speak with John Denall at a gun show (the guy who builds the silent destroyer) and he told me he designed his system from the ground up to shoot cheap cast lead bullets.
I cant find the video of you shooting my SD. Do you have it by chance?

can2suppress · Post by **can2suppress** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:20 pm

Italked to Denall.. He said close to a year wait. He builds 3 at a time. Any suggestions??

David Hineline · Post by **David Hineline** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:51 pm

It's as simple as writing a check.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =224790470

If you can't plan your NFA purchases a year before you need them then you must pay money to those who did plan on having them in advance.

The rifles are current production again now, so unless you need one of the Name Brand guys to do your gun just buy one and send it off to any NFA manuf. who can build you up what you want.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =224702074

I have a stainless John's Guns and it is one of my favorite shooting guns.

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