Who Is Next?

[yellowfin]

So which major gun company is going to follow Remington's lead and get involved in mainstreaming suppressors by buying/merging w/ a can company or start making their own? Ruger? S&W? Glock? Browning? Mossberg? Isn't it about time for that kind of news again? Or does nobody else have that vision yet?

[SRM]

Factory threaded barrels is a step in the right direction!

[driver6814]

If enough get involved to make money.... They will apply pressure on the GOV....

Factory Rifle/Silencer packages=Mucho Dinero

[pmchenry]

Remington moved on the merger because the military has serious interest in suppressors as standard equipment. The field reports that have come in from Iraq and the Ghan over the last decade show suppressors to significantly increase tactical ability in combat. Basically, the thought is that whenever these conflicts are finally over, the Joint Chiefs are going to put together a panel to reassess the needs of the modern infantryman and then call for trials to either replace or upgrade the M4 weapon system. There is a strong consensus among insiders that at least some form of suppression will be required in a bidding submission. Remington acquired AAC specifically to acquire an edge in weapon design should any such trials take place.

Will Remington's involvement in AAC mean a more mainstream approach to suppressor marketing? Perhaps, but it will only be a side effect. And if other major companies start scooping up promising fabrication shops around the country, it will be for the same military applications as Remington.

Sorry, I don't mean to burst your bubble... just don't get your hopes up too high :/

Sources: View the original press release from AAC at the bottom. I can confirm the general feelings about the need for a suppressed standard platform from my own personal experience in the US Army.

[MJF1911]

I don't really see anybody else falling into Freedom Group.

[yellowfin]

That all may be true, but look what has come out of military weapon development: a sizable majority of the development in firearms we have. Metallic cartridges, rifled barrels, smokeless powder, bolt action, lever action, and semiautomatic rifles, synthetic stocks, the .30-06, .223, .308, 7.62x39, .45-70, 9x19, .45ACP, et al., the 1911...and so on. Further, as people leave military service they often want the firearms that they became familiar with, e.g. the 03 Springfield, 1911, M1 Garand, and most recently the AR15. I bet that a generation who become used to suppressors while in the service will indeed want them for their own personal firearms.

Further, there's a question that eventually plagues a lot of businesses: market saturation. What do you sell to everyone when they've already bought what you sell? How about something that 95-98% of gun owners don't have but at least 40% would want that costs 75-150% of the price of a firearm which if produced on an equal or larger scale would cost 25-50% or less of a firearm's cost to make. 290 million firearms times an average $300 price (very conservative) is $87 BILLION in untapped market. The only word to describe a firearms company that doesn't want to tap into that is STUPID.

Remington moved on the merger because the military has serious interest in suppressors as standard equipment. The field reports that have come in from Iraq and the Ghan over the last decade show suppressors to significantly increase tactical ability in combat. Basically, the thought is that whenever these conflicts are finally over, the Joint Chiefs are going to put together a panel to reassess the needs of the modern infantryman and then call for trials to either replace or upgrade the M4 weapon system. There is a strong consensus among insiders that at least some form of suppression will be required in a bidding submission. Remington acquired AAC specifically to acquire an edge in weapon design should any such trials take place.

Will Remington's involvement in AAC mean a more mainstream approach to suppressor marketing? Perhaps, but it will only be a side effect. And if other major companies start scooping up promising fabrication shops around the country, it will be for the same military applications as Remington.

Sorry, I don't mean to burst your bubble... just don't get your hopes up too high :/

Sources: View the original press release from AAC at the bottom. I can confirm the general feelings about the need for a suppressed standard platform from my own personal experience in the US Army.

[crazy-mp]

I hope Ruger does, their .22 can will weigh 7 pounds and be able to handle a mini-gun if they build it like they do their P90's and GP100's

[yellowfin]

It seems like Ruger would do it but they'll have to be the last to do so. They don't ever seem to want to be first on anything yet when they do get around to it they talk about it like it's something new. Of course that's generally a pet peeve of mine with a lot of the firearms industry, waaaaay too much following the crowd.

[Mike M.]

Honestly, I don't think it will happen. It's too easy for a major arms manufacturer to win the contract and have the suppressor vendor be a subcontractor. Especially since this sort of arrangement lets the prime pick the subcontractor whose suppressor works the best on their rifle.

[morpheus]

Factory threaded barrels is a step in the right direction!

As many if not all of you know now, Savage is now making several guns with factory threaded barrels. I own a Model 10 in 308 win and a 17 HMR both with factory threads.

[JasonM]

Factory threaded barrels is a step in the right direction!

As many if not all of you know now, Savage is now making several guns with factory threaded barrels. I own a Model 10 in 308 win and a 17 HMR both with factory threads.

And they are even putting "Suppressor-Ready Threaded Barrel" in their ads. Nice to see.

[sha-ul]

Factory threaded barrels is a step in the right direction!

As many if not all of you know now, Savage is now making several guns with factory threaded barrels. I own a Model 10 in 308 win and a 17 HMR both with factory threads.

And they are even putting "Suppressor-Ready Threaded Barrel" in their ads. Nice to see.

add this one


http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/mode ... ON+CARBINE

[shootertom]

Thats an awesome 300 blk! Id like to get that one!

[morpheus]

And they are even putting "Suppressor-Ready Threaded Barrel" in their ads. Nice to see.[/quote]
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http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/mode ... ON+CARBINE[/quote]
Sha-ul,
I just picked up that exact Savage Model 10 carbine this past wednesday. Yea, Savage needs to update their website. You would not even know that gun is offered with factory threads or even come with 5R rifling because they don't advertise that on their site. I had my dealer call just to inquire with his distributor, and yep they do have that gun factory threaded and Accusport had them in stock. My only I ordered one on the spot. My only disappointment with it when I initially got it in, the gun had the hunting style bolt and not the oversize bolt handle as advertised. I had it returned to Accusport and a week later they sent one with the oversize bolt handle. I have yet to shoot it, but my hunch is it will out shoot the Remington AAC-SD.

[dtom29]

What is the barrel length? Did you get it in 308 or 300 BLK?

[ottosear]

And they are even putting "Suppressor-Ready Threaded Barrel" in their ads. Nice to see.

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http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/mode ... ON+CARBINE[/quote]
Sha-ul,
I just picked up that exact Savage Model 10 carbine this past wednesday. Yea, Savage needs to update their website. You would not even know that gun is offered with factory threads or even come with 5R rifling because they don't advertise that on their site. I had my dealer call just to inquire with his distributor, and yep they do have that gun factory threaded and Accusport had them in stock. My only I ordered one on the spot. My only disappointment with it when I initially got it in, the gun had the hunting style bolt and not the oversize bolt handle as advertised. I had it returned to Accusport and a week later they sent one with the oversize bolt handle. I have yet to shoot it, but my hunch is it will out shoot the Remington AAC-SD.[/quote]

I run a first gen Checkmate on my suppressor ready Savage .22
Now if those A holes would make it left handed we would have something !!!

[shootertom]

Are you talking about the 300 blk out. If so, what was the sale price?

[ottosear]

No the Savage .22 I bought was $189.

[morpheus]

What is the barrel length? Did you get it in 308 or 300 BLK?

My Savage Model 10 is in 308 with a 20" heavy fluted Brl.

[Chondro]

You can probably cross off Smith & Wesson as no one there seems to know they make factory threaded barrels for the M&P 9's or the M&P 22's..

[shootertom]

I notice S&M took the threaded MP 9 off their web-site.

[eazenutz33]

Someone please send me info on the Savage .22 Bolt Action with factory threaded barrel for $189!!!!!
Must have!

[shootertom]

I haven't seen one for that low of a price. I am getting this one myself. My dealer has them for $250

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/

[eazenutz33]

I haven't seen one for that low of a price. I am getting this one myself. My dealer has them for $250

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/

Takes me to their search page, not a particular model.

Dropped a line to my dealer and he had 2 Savage Mark II Fv-SR models. 16" barrel, 5rd mag, threaded barrel. He now has one!

Was $220....$236 with tax.




And I was done buying guns for 2011!!! I'm going to block myself from all gun sights...someday.

[ottosear]

Someone please send me info on the Savage .22 Bolt Action with factory threaded barrel for $189!!!!!
Must have!

MKII FV-SR $289. Sorry gents.
But a trigger and barrel threading would eat much of that up in another host.
Sorry for my mistake, Otto.