Forms expire? CLEO, demo guns, SOT

[siscokid7]

Edited...did not realize this was a Google searchable forum

[twodollarbill]

As far as I know....you are SOL.
New York is a banned state.
If you do get some form 4's signed.....I would get them framed.

[66427vette]

You need to move to a free state.

[stevejobs]

Move, brother. Just move.

[Chondro]

With the title of demo guns I think you skipped some parts in there as well as what you wanted to touch on..If you have an SOT then you don't do the form 4 process. Since you can't get Silencers in New York there are no dealers that deal with the public..A form 4 is good for one year after signing..But most will not sign unless its complete including the serial of the item..Some will sign a blank and you fill in the rest later..For New York though that's irrelevant..

So you have to get your FFL/SOT and have no choice but law enforcement sales and I'd imagine that you would have to do it at cost basically just to compete but then at least could have the toys to play..Its alot of work to play as well..Honestly better off moving to a free state..

[siscokid7]

I'm sorry I should have added that I am a police officer. I have been bugging the nice people at the nfa branch and the local ATF office over here for the past week before even deciding to post here. In NY police officers are exempt from AW ban, civilian nfa item ownership, automatic knives and such. That is one of the reasons I am so interested in becoming an NFA dealer because to my knowledge no other NY officers have done the same. And as far as the demo weapons I wanted to know if a PD wanted to see a demonstration of a weapon system would I have to still get a CLEO signature or not. And if the PD decided to not purchase the weapon do I have to keep it? I think that might prevent me from doing demos because I don't want a large cache of unsellable firearms. Edited...This is a Google searchable forum, I don't want public inquiries into why Police are allowed special privelege over the public. For the record I don't agree with it, but I guess I would be stupid to not take advantage of it.

[Emilio]

I'm glad our state allows peoples to have what the police have. Some states only lack a wall.

[siscokid7]

Yes I would love to move to a free state, but my retirement is non-transferable. I am not to far from PA and I swear I can almost smell the freedom when I am near the border. NY is the most liberal state in NA I occupied Poland, I mean America, and unfortunately I am stuck here. So at least I am trying to make the best of it given my current situation. And no I don't want my ffl just to play with toys, I do that at work. Yes NY needs a wall to seperate NYC from the rest of the state. Everything people say about NY is true, but it is my home probably until I die so my options are limited. Thanks guys.

[ScorpioMk]

Set up a trust outside of the state and do a 5320 every year into the state, if officers are allowed to posses them maybe you can do it that way if there was any kind of hicup with getting them as a resident of NY.

[jnitti1014]

I'm sorry I should have added that I am a police officer. I have been bugging the nice people at the nfa branch and the local ATF office over here for the past week before even deciding to post here. In NY police officers are exempt from AW ban, civilian nfa item ownership, automatic knives and such. That is one of the reasons I am so interested in becoming an NFA dealer because to my knowledge no other NY officers have done the same. And as far as the demo weapons I wanted to know if a PD wanted to see a demonstration of a weapon system would I have to still get a CLEO signature or not. And if the PD decided to not purchase the weapon do I have to keep it? I think that might prevent me from doing demos because I don't want a large cache of unsellable firearms. Edited...This is a Google searchable forum, I don't want public inquiries into why Police are allowed special privelege over the public. For the record I don't agree with it, but I guess I would be stupid to not take advantage of it.

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