Hi my name is Dylan and I'm new to suppressors and silencer talk forums. I have a Daniel Defense AR-15 in 5.56/.233 caliber and I was just looking for the best or quietest suppressor available today. Some things I want on it:
-QUIET
-Quick Detach/Attach
Thanks for the help everybody!
Best/Quietest AR-15 Suppressor, Any price.
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Re: Best/Quietest AR-15 Suppressor, Any price.
quietkills,
First off, welcome to the forum. Second, you need to realize that a "quiet" 5.56 AR platform is very relative. To me, my 10.5" suppressed 5.56 AR platform sound like an unsuppressed .22 lr, not quite hearing safe. That being said, there are many quality cans out there. Do some research of the companies you've listed in your poll, decide which aspects you are looking for in a can, and make your decision from there (ie. weight, length, supression, durability, etc). Also, if it's an option available to you, go to a dealer and test some of the models you are interested in.
First off, welcome to the forum. Second, you need to realize that a "quiet" 5.56 AR platform is very relative. To me, my 10.5" suppressed 5.56 AR platform sound like an unsuppressed .22 lr, not quite hearing safe. That being said, there are many quality cans out there. Do some research of the companies you've listed in your poll, decide which aspects you are looking for in a can, and make your decision from there (ie. weight, length, supression, durability, etc). Also, if it's an option available to you, go to a dealer and test some of the models you are interested in.
Re: Best/Quietest AR-15 Suppressor, Any price.
Even suppressed 5.56 is not that quiet. If you haven't heard it, I suggest you do so you have a realistic expectation.quietkills wrote:Some things I want on it:
-QUIET...
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This or a custom integraldelta9mda wrote:spr/m4
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Not very quiet to the shooters ear but you can hear the diference when standingAbiqua wrote:Even suppressed 5.56 is not that quiet. If you haven't heard it, I suggest you do so you have a realistic expectation.quietkills wrote:Some things I want on it:
-QUIET...
20+ feet away.
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Nfa talk has great free data on db reduction
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/threaddelta9mda wrote:spr/m4
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The Ops Inc 12th model and the SPR-M4 will meter the same (about 131-132 dB). With the action noise, most people can't tell the difference between 131-136 or even higher. The ejection port and sonic crack are just that loud.renegade wrote:/threaddelta9mda wrote:spr/m4
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You may gain some quietness with the SPR/M4 in that it might reduce port noise.... other than that.... outside of the shooter's position, they all sound the same to me.
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Dylan,
Will this be your first suppressor ever? If so, I would suggest suppressing just about anything but the .223. Maybe a .22LR...or a 9mm. The .223 suppressed is kinda disappointing. If you're set on suppressing the .223, maybe get a Liberty Mystic so you can use it on a 9mm as well. Definitely shoot a suppressed .223 before you plunk down your hard earned cash.
Will this be your first suppressor ever? If so, I would suggest suppressing just about anything but the .223. Maybe a .22LR...or a 9mm. The .223 suppressed is kinda disappointing. If you're set on suppressing the .223, maybe get a Liberty Mystic so you can use it on a 9mm as well. Definitely shoot a suppressed .223 before you plunk down your hard earned cash.
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I have to agree with the other posts. 5.56 is not a good platform for your first suppressor. The sonic crack of the bullet is very loud, and nothing can be done about that other than shooting subs and then you might as well shoot .22LR.
If you absolutely have to get 5.56 can, do anything that you can to see/shoot one yourself before buying. They do reduce the sound a fair amount from a distance, so just be sure that your expectations are reasonable. None of them are really hearing safe for the shooter. I think that a good .22 can would be a much better choice for your first one.
If you absolutely have to get 5.56 can, do anything that you can to see/shoot one yourself before buying. They do reduce the sound a fair amount from a distance, so just be sure that your expectations are reasonable. None of them are really hearing safe for the shooter. I think that a good .22 can would be a much better choice for your first one.
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I hear a lot of people recommend that 'new' guys not get a 5.56 can for their first go-round. I understand the logic/reasoning. But, unsure that I completely agree. Yea, a 22lr or 9mm can with subs is going to be stupid quiet while centerfire rifle cans aren't exactly like movie whisper-silent. But how do people really not know this? Do folks just run out and buy a suppressor without any practical experience, never having shot or heard one? If so, why?
The first can I owned was a 5.56 rifle suppressor and it didn't disappoint me one little bit. An incredible improvement over unsuppressed. It ain't "silent" but no supersonic cartridge will ever be, it just won't. That's physics. No matter what can is on the end of your rifle. I went and shot/heard some different cans so I had reasonable expectations prior to my purchase. I simply wanted to hunt/shoot without hearing protection and that's exactly that I got. It's perfect for my needs. Your needs may be quite different though.
Ultimately, it's up to the buyer to beware. Do your homework and research first. Ask around. Get some practical experience. Go shoot some cans. Know what you're buying and why, before you jump in. Then you won't be disappointed.
p.s. there isn't a 'best' suppressor. It really depends on your application. Determine that first. The most 'quiet' may not be the 'best' for your needs.
The first can I owned was a 5.56 rifle suppressor and it didn't disappoint me one little bit. An incredible improvement over unsuppressed. It ain't "silent" but no supersonic cartridge will ever be, it just won't. That's physics. No matter what can is on the end of your rifle. I went and shot/heard some different cans so I had reasonable expectations prior to my purchase. I simply wanted to hunt/shoot without hearing protection and that's exactly that I got. It's perfect for my needs. Your needs may be quite different though.
Ultimately, it's up to the buyer to beware. Do your homework and research first. Ask around. Get some practical experience. Go shoot some cans. Know what you're buying and why, before you jump in. Then you won't be disappointed.
p.s. there isn't a 'best' suppressor. It really depends on your application. Determine that first. The most 'quiet' may not be the 'best' for your needs.
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The reason people say that the 556 is loud is because there isn't a good suppressor on the market for it yet. Give Red Jacket some time and they will bring the dB level of the 556 down to about 110 dB. Hell they made the 50 BMG hearing safe at 118 dB so the 556 isn't a problem.
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Re: Best/Quietest AR-15 Suppressor, Any price.
No suppressor is able to eliminate ballistic "crack" of supersonic bullet, but noise of report towards the shooter is usually not louder than snap of .22 rimfire rifle, shooting Hi-Velocity .22 LR cartridges. Using custom-loaded 5.56 x 45 mm subsonic rounds (muzzle velocity ca. 300 m/s or 1000 fps) the noise of the shot is not very much more audible than is the hammer click of a dry-fired rifle. The T8AR Scout Reflex Suppressor is available for the M16.
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No, red jacket absolutely did not get a .50 cal down to 118db. That is impossible with any supressor. The sonic crack of the round is louder than that. They had to have used subsonic .50 ammo or something. I watched that episode and the meter wasnt in the right place to take an accurate reading. There are certain places you have to set up the meter. Its something like one meter high and one meter left of the muzzle or something. I also watched a video of a guy that used subsinic 50 ammo using a suppressor and it was around 118 db, but i didn see where he had his meter set up.
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G'Day Fella's,
In my experience, for light weight (365Grams), 1 1/2" Dia and only 4 3/8" long, the all stainless steel S.F.I. "Silent Partner" TM, is the pick of them!
FYI, they are designed and made in Australia!!!
Unfortunately, I don't know how to post an image, so I'm unable to show you what they look like.
Doh!
Homer
In my experience, for light weight (365Grams), 1 1/2" Dia and only 4 3/8" long, the all stainless steel S.F.I. "Silent Partner" TM, is the pick of them!
FYI, they are designed and made in Australia!!!
Unfortunately, I don't know how to post an image, so I'm unable to show you what they look like.
Doh!
Homer
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+1 for SPR/M4
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Re: Best/Quietest AR-15 Suppressor, Any price.
Can't say if it is the quietest or not but my Liberty Torch does a pretty darn good job!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQyWYQfx ... e=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQyWYQfx ... e=youtu.be
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+1 for the torch QATimc wrote:Can't say if it is the quietest or not but my Liberty Torch does a pretty darn good job!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQyWYQfx ... e=youtu.be
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