ATF continued.......
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Re: ATF continued.......
1. NFA Item: LMT SBR
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 08-28-12
5. Check Cashed: 9-11-12
6. Pending: 09-18-12
7. Approved: 02-23-13
8. From Received: 02-28-13
9. Examiner: Albert Lamburger(sp?)
Exactly 6 months door to door
1. NFA Item: AAC Pilot 2
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 02-01-13
5. Check Cashed: 02-07-13
6. Pending: 03-08-13
7. Approved: ?
8. From Received: 09-20-13
9. Examiner: ?
1. NFA Item: AAC M4-2000
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 03-28-13
5. Check Cashed: 04-02-13
6. Pending: 05-31-13
7. Approved: ?
8. From Received: ?
9. Examiner: ?
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Got a call on Friday that the stamp for my Pilot 2 came in. Will pick it up tomorrow. 7 months and 20 days door to door. Holding hope that my other stamp will be here in 2 months....
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 08-28-12
5. Check Cashed: 9-11-12
6. Pending: 09-18-12
7. Approved: 02-23-13
8. From Received: 02-28-13
9. Examiner: Albert Lamburger(sp?)
Exactly 6 months door to door
1. NFA Item: AAC Pilot 2
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 02-01-13
5. Check Cashed: 02-07-13
6. Pending: 03-08-13
7. Approved: ?
8. From Received: 09-20-13
9. Examiner: ?
1. NFA Item: AAC M4-2000
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 03-28-13
5. Check Cashed: 04-02-13
6. Pending: 05-31-13
7. Approved: ?
8. From Received: ?
9. Examiner: ?
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Got a call on Friday that the stamp for my Pilot 2 came in. Will pick it up tomorrow. 7 months and 20 days door to door. Holding hope that my other stamp will be here in 2 months....
- eastern_hunter
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Re: ATF continued.......
Sniper1,
Hope your last stamp clears in time too ... the last of my submitted forms went pending on 5/23. We would both be happy campers!
Hope your last stamp clears in time too ... the last of my submitted forms went pending on 5/23. We would both be happy campers!
Re: ATF continued.......
1. NFA Item: AAC 762-SDN-6
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 01-26-13
5. Check Cashed: 02-01-13
6. Pending: 03-11-13
7. Approved: ?
8. Form Received: ?
9. Examiner: Dana Pickles
240 Days and counting...
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 01-26-13
5. Check Cashed: 02-01-13
6. Pending: 03-11-13
7. Approved: ?
8. Form Received: ?
9. Examiner: Dana Pickles
240 Days and counting...
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- eastern_hunter
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- Location: Charleston, WV
Re: ATF continued.......
Casper,
THAT is discouraging!!!
THAT is discouraging!!!
Re: ATF continued.......
Yeah... I can't say it makes me all that happy. It does look like I've got lots of company, I mean just look at this: http://www.nfatracker.com/TrendGraph.aspxeastern_hunter wrote:Casper,
THAT is discouraging!!!
Re: ATF continued.......
Yeah I just called about my last one and they said in February. There wasnt a second pending date yet either.... I do hope it completes before then.
1. NFA Item: LMT SBR
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 08-28-12
5. Check Cashed: 9-11-12
6. Pending: 09-18-12
7. Approved: 02-23-13
8. From Received: 02-28-13
9. Examiner: Albert Lamburger(sp?)
Exactly 6 months door to door
1. NFA Item: AAC Pilot 2
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 02-01-13
5. Check Cashed: 02-07-13
6. Pending: 03-08-13
7. Approved: 09-16-13
8. From Received: 09-20-13
9. Examiner: Albert Lamburger
7 1/2 months...
1. NFA Item: AAC M4-2000
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 03-28-13
5. Check Cashed: 04-02-13
6. Pending: 05-31-13
7. Approved: ?
8. From Received: ?
9. Examiner: ?
1. NFA Item: LMT SBR
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 08-28-12
5. Check Cashed: 9-11-12
6. Pending: 09-18-12
7. Approved: 02-23-13
8. From Received: 02-28-13
9. Examiner: Albert Lamburger(sp?)
Exactly 6 months door to door
1. NFA Item: AAC Pilot 2
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 02-01-13
5. Check Cashed: 02-07-13
6. Pending: 03-08-13
7. Approved: 09-16-13
8. From Received: 09-20-13
9. Examiner: Albert Lamburger
7 1/2 months...
1. NFA Item: AAC M4-2000
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 03-28-13
5. Check Cashed: 04-02-13
6. Pending: 05-31-13
7. Approved: ?
8. From Received: ?
9. Examiner: ?
Re: ATF continued.......
1. NFA Item: AAC 762-SDN-6Casper wrote:1. NFA Item: AAC 762-SDN-6
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 01-26-13
5. Check Cashed: 02-01-13
6. Pending: 03-11-13
7. Approved: ?
8. Form Received: ?
9. Examiner: Dana Pickles
240 Days and counting...
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 01-26-13
5. Check Cashed: 02-01-13
6. Pending: 03-11-13
7. Approved: 09-30-13
8. Form Received: 10-04-13
9. Examiner: Dana Pickles
I have to give it to Dana, the man sent my form off right before the gov. shut down.
252 days of waiting over. Hell YEAH!!
Re: ATF continued.......
One lesson I have learned on my latest stamp is that just because you have been approved does not mean anything.....until you get your paper work back. Was approved almost 2 months ago, according to the dealer he never received the forms. Dealer requested copies, that was almost a month ago and still nothing. All this after waiting 8 months. Either the ATF, the dealer or the USPS screwed me. Now the shutdown is in full swing. Not happy with this BS.
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Fark, this puts my can like ballpark 3 days from now.... not no more..1. NFA Item: AAC 762-SDN-6
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 01-26-13
5. Check Cashed: 02-01-13
6. Pending: 03-11-13
7. Approved: 09-30-13
8. Form Received: 10-04-13
9. Examiner: Dana Pickles
I have to give it to Dana, the man sent my form off right before the gov. shut down.
252 days of waiting over. Hell YEAH!!
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Do form 4s come back to the trustee/individual or the dealer? Wondering if I ought to give my dealer a call, wish I could call the ATF.Casper wrote: 1. NFA Item: AAC 762-SDN-6
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 01-26-13
5. Check Cashed: 02-01-13
6. Pending: 03-11-13
7. Approved: 09-30-13
8. Form Received: 10-04-13
9. Examiner: Dana Pickles
I have to give it to Dana, the man sent my form off right before the gov. shut down.
252 days of waiting over. Hell YEAH!!
I went pending 2/26 and Dana is the examiner.
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Form 4's will go back to the dealer. While I doubt your dealer wouldn't have called you if it had come back, you've got nothing to lose but giving him a ring.jmeister wrote:Do form 4s come back to the trustee/individual or the dealer? Wondering if I ought to give my dealer a call, wish I could call the ATF.Casper wrote: 1. NFA Item: AAC 762-SDN-6
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 01-26-13
5. Check Cashed: 02-01-13
6. Pending: 03-11-13
7. Approved: 09-30-13
8. Form Received: 10-04-13
9. Examiner: Dana Pickles
I have to give it to Dana, the man sent my form off right before the gov. shut down.
252 days of waiting over. Hell YEAH!!
I went pending 2/26 and Dana is the examiner.
Re: ATF continued.......
1. NFA Item: Tac Sol Cascade TI
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 01-29-13
5. Check Cashed: 02-05-13
6. Pending: 02-16-2013
7. Second Pending: 07-16-2013
8. Approved: 09-27-13
9. Form Received: 10-04-13
10. Examiner: Albert Lamberger
1. NFA Item: Ares AOW .380 flashlight.
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 01-29-13
5. Check Cashed: 02-05-13
6. Pending: 02-16-2013
7. Second Pending: 07-16-2013
8. Approved: 09-27-13
9. Form Received: 10-04-13
10. Examiner: Albert Lamberger
I was very excited to hear from my dealer that the forms came back. I was expecting to be well into November with the shutdown.
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 01-29-13
5. Check Cashed: 02-05-13
6. Pending: 02-16-2013
7. Second Pending: 07-16-2013
8. Approved: 09-27-13
9. Form Received: 10-04-13
10. Examiner: Albert Lamberger
1. NFA Item: Ares AOW .380 flashlight.
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 01-29-13
5. Check Cashed: 02-05-13
6. Pending: 02-16-2013
7. Second Pending: 07-16-2013
8. Approved: 09-27-13
9. Form Received: 10-04-13
10. Examiner: Albert Lamberger
I was very excited to hear from my dealer that the forms came back. I was expecting to be well into November with the shutdown.
Re: ATF continued.......
Got lucky, emailed dealer Sat morning & said he hadn't received. Emailed me back Sat night & said it arrived that afternoon.Casper wrote: Form 4's will go back to the dealer. While I doubt your dealer wouldn't have called you if it had come back, you've got nothing to lose but giving him a ring.
1. NFA Item: SWR Spectre II
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 01-22-13
5. Check Cashed: 01-29-13
6. Pending: 02-26-2013
7. Second Pending: ?
8. Approved: 09-26-13
9. Form Received: 10-05-13
10. Examiner: Daniel A Parcy? Can't really make out the middle initial or last name. Dealer hadn't seen the name before either. Normally Dana Pickles
Re: ATF continued.......
Trust xfers.
SilencerCo Osprey
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sent 2/15/2013
cashed 2/20/2013
pending 4/3/2013
approved 11/04/2013
received 11/11/2013
examiner: Nicki Dudash
and this part is funny, mailed on the same day.
Liberty Mystic
=======================
sent 2/15/2013
cashed 2/20/2013
pending 4/3/2013
approved ???????
I know Nicki Dudash is overworked but it's still funny.
SilencerCo Osprey
=======================
sent 2/15/2013
cashed 2/20/2013
pending 4/3/2013
approved 11/04/2013
received 11/11/2013
examiner: Nicki Dudash
and this part is funny, mailed on the same day.
Liberty Mystic
=======================
sent 2/15/2013
cashed 2/20/2013
pending 4/3/2013
approved ???????
I know Nicki Dudash is overworked but it's still funny.
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Trust Transfer - All filed Electronically
_________SilencerCo Osprey 9_________
_________5" 9mm SBR_________
_________SilencerCo Osprey 9_________
- Sent - 11/19/13
- Approved - 04/24/14
- 156 Days Elapsed
- Sent - 11/21/13
- Approved - 05/01/14
- 161 Days Elapsed
- Sent - 12/05/13
- Approved - 05/06/14
- 152 Days Elapsed
_________5" 9mm SBR_________
- Sent - 12/3/13
- Approved - 05/04/14
- 152 Days Elapsed
- Sent - 12/3/13
- Approved - 05/04/14
- 152 Days Elapsed
- Sent - 12/3/13
- Approved - 05/04/14
- 152 Days Elapsed
- Sent - 12/3/13
- Approved - 05/06/14
- 154 Days Elapsed
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I <3 guns
Recently Purchased: AAC SDN-6, SilencerCo Osprey 9
Now the wait...
Recently Purchased: AAC SDN-6, SilencerCo Osprey 9
Now the wait...
Re: ATF continued.......
1. NFA Item: SBR
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 11/18/2013
5. Form Delivered: 11/21/2013
6. Check Cashed (Electronic Debit): 12/3/2013
7. Pending: 1/27/14
8. Second Pending: WTF does this even mean? There are two pending states now?
9. Approved:
10. Form Received:
11. Examiner: Terry Whittington (first experience with him; NFA Tracker shows him being pretty slow).
Will update as time goes on. I could have filed eForms for this but I am really wierded out by the inability to fill out certain boxes as I see fit, and also by the forgery-looking see-through stamp they send you on eForms. It's worth the extra wait to me to have professional-looking forms that don't scream "FAKE" to any sensible LEO.
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 11/18/2013
5. Form Delivered: 11/21/2013
6. Check Cashed (Electronic Debit): 12/3/2013
7. Pending: 1/27/14
8. Second Pending: WTF does this even mean? There are two pending states now?
9. Approved:
10. Form Received:
11. Examiner: Terry Whittington (first experience with him; NFA Tracker shows him being pretty slow).
Will update as time goes on. I could have filed eForms for this but I am really wierded out by the inability to fill out certain boxes as I see fit, and also by the forgery-looking see-through stamp they send you on eForms. It's worth the extra wait to me to have professional-looking forms that don't scream "FAKE" to any sensible LEO.
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[b]Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?[/b]
- firstsgtsteiner
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- Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:48 pm
- Location: Newark Ohio
Re: ATF continued.......
1. NFA Item: SBR PS90
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transfer Type: Individual
4. Form Sent: 11/27/2013
5. Form Delivered:
6. Check Cashed:
7. Pending:
8. Second Pending:
9. Approved:
10. Form Received:
11. Examiner:
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transfer Type: Individual
4. Form Sent: 11/27/2013
5. Form Delivered:
6. Check Cashed:
7. Pending:
8. Second Pending:
9. Approved:
10. Form Received:
11. Examiner:
- misfit762
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- Location: Pittsburgh, PA
- Contact:
Re: ATF continued.......
1. NFA Item: SilencerCo Osprey 45
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 12/06/2013
5. Form Delivered:
6. Check Cashed:Money Order
7. Pending:
8. Second Pending:
9. Approved:
10. Form Received:
11. Examiner:
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 12/06/2013
5. Form Delivered:
6. Check Cashed:Money Order
7. Pending:
8. Second Pending:
9. Approved:
10. Form Received:
11. Examiner:
LIVE FREE OR DIE!
Re: ATF continued.......
1. NFA Item: SWR SpecWar 762
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 12/06/2013
5. Form Delivered: 12/09/2013
6. Check Cashed:12/12/2013
7. Pending:
8. Second Pending:
9. Approved:
10. Form Received:
11. Examiner: Nicole Dudash
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 12/06/2013
5. Form Delivered: 12/09/2013
6. Check Cashed:12/12/2013
7. Pending:
8. Second Pending:
9. Approved:
10. Form Received:
11. Examiner: Nicole Dudash
"You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws...it's insane!"-- Penn Jilette
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Re: ATF continued.......
1.
Silencerco
Sparrow SS
.22LR
Sent---------May 1, 2012
Cashed-----June 1, 2012
Pending-----June 7, 2012
Approved---Oct 16, 2012
Stamp-------Oct 20, 2012
173 Days
Sara Jones
2.
Silencerco
Osprey 45
45 ACP, 9mm, 300Blk
Sent--------July 25, 2012
Cashed-----Aug 7, 2012
Pending----Aug 14, 2012
Approved---Jan 23, 2013
Stamp------ Feb 14, 2013
181 Days
Sara Jones
3.
2 Vets Arms
Spartan-15
5.56 Nato
Sent---------Feb 1, 2013
Cashed-----Feb 13, 2013
Pending-----Mar 22, 2013
Error---------July 17, 2013
Received----Aug 3, 2013
Pending 2---Aug 7, 2013
Govt End----Oct 1, 2013
Govt Start---Oct 17, 2013
Approved---Nov 22, 2013
Stamp-------Dec 2, 2013
307 Days
Joyce Leonard
4.
SWR
Warlock 2
.22LR
Sent---------Feb 26, 2013
Cashed------Mar 5, 2013
Pending-----Apr 19, 2013
Pending 2---Aug 6, 2013
Govt End----Oct 1, 2013
Govt Start---Oct 17, 2013
Approved---
Stamp-------
288 Days (as of 12/10)
5.
Silencerco
Saker 5.56
5.56 Nato
Sent---------Feb 26, 2013
Cashed------Mar 5, 2013
Pending-----Apr 19, 2013
Pending 2---Aug 6, 2013
Govt End----Oct 1, 2013
Govt Start---Oct 17, 2013
Approved---
Stamp-------
288 Days (as of 12/10)
6.
SWR
Specwar 762
308, 7.62x39, 300Blk
E-File-------Sep 10, 2013
Cashed-----Sep 10, 2013
Pending----Sep 10, 2013
Govt End---Oct 1, 2013
Govt Start--Oct 17, 2013
Approved---Dec 10, 2013
Stamp-------Dec 10, 2013
91 Days
Sandra Snook
Silencerco
Sparrow SS
.22LR
Sent---------May 1, 2012
Cashed-----June 1, 2012
Pending-----June 7, 2012
Approved---Oct 16, 2012
Stamp-------Oct 20, 2012
173 Days
Sara Jones
2.
Silencerco
Osprey 45
45 ACP, 9mm, 300Blk
Sent--------July 25, 2012
Cashed-----Aug 7, 2012
Pending----Aug 14, 2012
Approved---Jan 23, 2013
Stamp------ Feb 14, 2013
181 Days
Sara Jones
3.
2 Vets Arms
Spartan-15
5.56 Nato
Sent---------Feb 1, 2013
Cashed-----Feb 13, 2013
Pending-----Mar 22, 2013
Error---------July 17, 2013
Received----Aug 3, 2013
Pending 2---Aug 7, 2013
Govt End----Oct 1, 2013
Govt Start---Oct 17, 2013
Approved---Nov 22, 2013
Stamp-------Dec 2, 2013
307 Days
Joyce Leonard
4.
SWR
Warlock 2
.22LR
Sent---------Feb 26, 2013
Cashed------Mar 5, 2013
Pending-----Apr 19, 2013
Pending 2---Aug 6, 2013
Govt End----Oct 1, 2013
Govt Start---Oct 17, 2013
Approved---
Stamp-------
288 Days (as of 12/10)
5.
Silencerco
Saker 5.56
5.56 Nato
Sent---------Feb 26, 2013
Cashed------Mar 5, 2013
Pending-----Apr 19, 2013
Pending 2---Aug 6, 2013
Govt End----Oct 1, 2013
Govt Start---Oct 17, 2013
Approved---
Stamp-------
288 Days (as of 12/10)
6.
SWR
Specwar 762
308, 7.62x39, 300Blk
E-File-------Sep 10, 2013
Cashed-----Sep 10, 2013
Pending----Sep 10, 2013
Govt End---Oct 1, 2013
Govt Start--Oct 17, 2013
Approved---Dec 10, 2013
Stamp-------Dec 10, 2013
91 Days
Sandra Snook
- eastern_hunter
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Re: ATF continued.......
Dealer just called ... Form 4 Trust transfer approved!
SWR Octane 9
Form sent: ---2/21/13
Check cashed---2/26/13
Approved --- 12/4/13
Stamp received by dealer ---12/12/13
Can transfered --- 12/13/13
Examiner: Albert Lamberger
286 days from cashed check
SWR Octane 9
Form sent: ---2/21/13
Check cashed---2/26/13
Approved --- 12/4/13
Stamp received by dealer ---12/12/13
Can transfered --- 12/13/13
Examiner: Albert Lamberger
286 days from cashed check
- firstsgtsteiner
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- Location: Newark Ohio
Re: ATF continued.......
1. NFA Item: SBR PS90
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transfer Type: Individual
4. Form Sent: 11/27/2013
5. Form Delivered: 11/30/2013
6. Check Cashed: 12/11/2013
7. Pending:
8. Second Pending:
9. Approved:
10. Form Received:
11. Examiner:
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transfer Type: Individual
4. Form Sent: 11/27/2013
5. Form Delivered: 11/30/2013
6. Check Cashed: 12/11/2013
7. Pending:
8. Second Pending:
9. Approved:
10. Form Received:
11. Examiner:
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NFA Item: AAC M4-2000
Form Type: Form 4
Transfer Type: Individual
Forms Sent: 02/25/2013
Check Cashed: 02/28/2013
Pending: 04/19/2013
2nd Pending: 08/20/2013
Approved: 12/05/2013
Stamp Received: 12/17/2013
Examiner: Nickie Dudash
Form Type: Form 4
Transfer Type: Individual
Forms Sent: 02/25/2013
Check Cashed: 02/28/2013
Pending: 04/19/2013
2nd Pending: 08/20/2013
Approved: 12/05/2013
Stamp Received: 12/17/2013
Examiner: Nickie Dudash
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E-Filed a Form 1 (SBR) on Sept. 12, 2013, received email 12/18/2013, that it has been approved.
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- eastern_hunter
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- Location: Charleston, WV
Re: ATF continued.......
Three Form 1 SBRs received ... two ARs and an UMP conversion of a USC.
Form sent: ---2/19/13
Check cashed---3/1/13
Approved --- 12/13/13
Stamp received: 12/18/13
Examiner: Dana Pickles
287 days from cashed check
Now only have two more Form 4s pending. Will start two more as soon as received by the dealer. I hope these will be the last two.
Form sent: ---2/19/13
Check cashed---3/1/13
Approved --- 12/13/13
Stamp received: 12/18/13
Examiner: Dana Pickles
287 days from cashed check
Now only have two more Form 4s pending. Will start two more as soon as received by the dealer. I hope these will be the last two.