New integral build from liberty 300blk

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New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by sukhoi » Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:28 pm

For those who dont frequent 300blktalk, liberty came out with a new integral! Dave mentioned around 120 db's
http://www.libertycans.net/leonidas.html

MSRP INFORMATION
COMPLETE RIFLE (NO SIGHTS)...................................................................................................................$1850
UPPER/SUPPRESSOR ASSEMBLY ONLY (NO SIGHTS).......................................................................$1555
SUPPRESSOR ONLY (BUILT ON CUSTOMER SUPPLIED BARRELED UPPER).............................$725

Seems like a sweet little package.
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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by kaotic504 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:21 pm

that's great, i just wish they didn't call it the Leonidas

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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by OJB4 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:11 pm

WOW......I want one of those too. Why does the process have to take sooooooo long? :(
I've gotta stop this habit.

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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by strobro32 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:31 pm

Buy a Liberty suppressor.

Their products are top notch and the CS is very good. I will be buying their can for the 300 BLK.
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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by jaredr » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:40 pm

kaotic504 wrote:that's great, i just wish they didn't call it the Leonidas
didn't noveske offer a .308 AR platform gun also called the leonidas?

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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by 1mile50 » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:18 pm

kaotic504 wrote:that's great, i just wish they didn't call it the Leonidas

I don't give a s--t what they call it, as long as it works, as long as it is quiet. :D

I just bought one. Sending in my upper this week.

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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by stevejobs » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:31 pm

Yawn. Do an integral bolt gun and I'm interested.

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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by yamatitan » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:09 pm

stevejobs wrote:Yawn. Do an integral bolt gun and I'm interested.
Wait you mean the one thats been on their website for a long time now?

http://www.libertycans.net/mjolnir.html

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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by stevejobs » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:31 pm

yamatitan wrote:Wait you mean the one thats been on their website for a long time now?

http://www.libertycans.net/mjolnir.html
From that page: "The 300 AAC Blackout Subsonic Ammunitions is still supersonic in the Mjolnir. Our barrel length of 15" is still not short enough to make them subsonic. You will still need to handload to go subsonic."

A for effort. But you will still need to try again son.

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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by gunguy » Tue May 01, 2012 12:19 am

stevejobs wrote:
yamatitan wrote:Wait you mean the one thats been on their website for a long time now?

http://www.libertycans.net/mjolnir.html
From that page: "The 300 AAC Blackout Subsonic Ammunitions is still supersonic in the Mjolnir. Our barrel length of 15" is still not short enough to make them subsonic. You will still need to handload to go subsonic."

A for effort. But you will still need to try again son.
Steve I like your avatar :D
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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by yamatitan » Tue May 01, 2012 7:06 pm

stevejobs wrote:
yamatitan wrote:Wait you mean the one thats been on their website for a long time now?

http://www.libertycans.net/mjolnir.html
From that page: "The 300 AAC Blackout Subsonic Ammunitions is still supersonic in the Mjolnir. Our barrel length of 15" is still not short enough to make them subsonic. You will still need to handload to go subsonic."

A for effort. But you will still need to try again son.
That doesnt make sense to me its stays subsonic and every 16" semi I ever seen. Is the chamber tighter or something? Anyway im sure they would port it if you asked.

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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by redtazdog » Tue May 01, 2012 9:06 pm

yamatitan wrote:
stevejobs wrote:
yamatitan wrote:Wait you mean the one thats been on their website for a long time now?

http://www.libertycans.net/mjolnir.html
From that page: "The 300 AAC Blackout Subsonic Ammunitions is still supersonic in the Mjolnir. Our barrel length of 15" is still not short enough to make them subsonic. You will still need to handload to go subsonic."

A for effort. But you will still need to try again son.
That doesnt make sense to me its stays subsonic and every 16" semi I ever seen. Is the chamber tighter or something? Anyway im sure they would port it if you asked.
A auto bleeds off some of the gas through the action and slows down the bullet a little.
A bolt action will push more gas through the muzzle pushing the bullet faster with the same ammo.

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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by gunguy » Tue May 01, 2012 9:52 pm

I never thought of it that way, but it makes sense to me.
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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by yamatitan » Wed May 02, 2012 1:40 pm

redtazdog wrote: A auto bleeds off some of the gas through the action and slows down the bullet a little.
A bolt action will push more gas through the muzzle pushing the bullet faster with the same ammo.
I would have figured most of the gas would be out the barrel by the time the bolt started to unlock. It has to be pretty damn close I would think it wouldnt take much porting to keep AAC subs subsonic in it and still have supers go super when you want better ballistics.

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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by slowfire » Sat May 05, 2012 11:48 pm

stevejobs wrote:
yamatitan wrote:Wait you mean the one thats been on their website for a long time now?

http://www.libertycans.net/mjolnir.html
From that page: "The 300 AAC Blackout Subsonic Ammunitions is still supersonic in the Mjolnir. Our barrel length of 15" is still not short enough to make them subsonic. You will still need to handload to go subsonic."

A for effort. But you will still need to try again son.
This is probably a result of testing with early factory loads. There were a lot of bolt gun shooters reporting supersonic velos in 16" bolt guns. I believe they backed it off some though, because I've had fine results in my 16" suppressed bolt gun with the 220 gr SMK factory load. They should probably try again with new ammo.

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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by srt-4_uk » Sun May 06, 2012 12:38 am

gunguy wrote: 1500.00$ + for a suppressed upper? Holly s--t! I hope it comes with a shirt or sticker :lol:
don't aac uppers go for $900? seems right in line price wise.

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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by redtazdog » Sun May 06, 2012 12:56 am

yamatitan wrote:
redtazdog wrote: A auto bleeds off some of the gas through the action and slows down the bullet a little.
A bolt action will push more gas through the muzzle pushing the bullet faster with the same ammo.
I would have figured most of the gas would be out the barrel by the time the bolt started to unlock. It has to be pretty damn close I would think it wouldnt take much porting to keep AAC subs subsonic in it and still have supers go super when you want better ballistics.
I have many 300 builds some AR's some single shot closed actions.
with a 16" barrel on each kind of host it shows the diference in velocity between a closed breech gun and a auto
so I hand load most of my ammo for the closed breech guns and use the same ammo for the AR's
then I dont get the velocity boost.
I have seen a velocty change between diferent brands of barrels too as the kind of rifling
and bore size can change things a little.

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Re: New integral build from liberty 300blk

Post by yamatitan » Sun May 06, 2012 1:00 pm

redtazdog wrote:
yamatitan wrote:
redtazdog wrote: A auto bleeds off some of the gas through the action and slows down the bullet a little.
A bolt action will push more gas through the muzzle pushing the bullet faster with the same ammo.
I would have figured most of the gas would be out the barrel by the time the bolt started to unlock. It has to be pretty damn close I would think it wouldnt take much porting to keep AAC subs subsonic in it and still have supers go super when you want better ballistics.
I have many 300 builds some AR's some single shot closed actions.
with a 16" barrel on each kind of host it shows the diference in velocity between a closed breech gun and a auto
so I hand load most of my ammo for the closed breech guns and use the same ammo for the AR's
then I dont get the velocity boost.
I have seen a velocty change between diferent brands of barrels too as the kind of rifling
and bore size can change things a little.
Im curious as to what the difference in velocity is. Are we talking 100 fps, 50 fps, 200 fps?

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