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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:34 am 
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Are there any high quality "shooting" gloves that offer a good grip AND enough heat tolerance to handle a hot suppressor?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:49 am 
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dan9591 wrote:
Are there any high quality "shooting" gloves that offer a good grip AND enough heat tolerance to handle a hot suppressor?


That depends on what type of suppressor you're talking about. If it's a 22 or possibly a pistol you might find some gloves that you can use for both. If you're talking about a rifle can you won't find any as they get too hot. Why do you need one pair of gloves to shoot with and handle a suppressor?

I usually use Mechanix Gloves for shooting and a pair of welding gloves to take off a hot rifle can.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:01 am 
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Anything leather will provide short term relief from a moderate amount of heat just make sure it doesn't have some kind poly coating on it.

Even a relatively thin leather glove or cloth glove will provide enough relief for the occasional tightening ... people use cotton rags to pull pans out of 500 degree ovens all the time.

I agree with ronin about the idea 1 pair of all purpose gloves. If I felt the need to wear gloves when shooting they'd either be some kind of heavy weather resistant hunting gloves or a thin pair of nitrile gloves and keep a potholder handy.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:45 pm 
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I guess I'm trying to combine the non-slip of rubber with the heat resistance of leather.

If I can get dual-use out of seomething, then it's one less item I have to schlep around...

I've tried some mechanix and 5.11 tactical gloves with non-slip coatings, but they start to melt pretty much right away when touching a hot piece of metal. Not even a red-hot piece will start them on smoking and issuing a burning smell.

Any other suggestions?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:29 pm 
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Hush told me that he always found the best shooting gloves in the oven mit section of Bed, Bath, and Beyond.

I found a pair of heat-resistant work gloves at Lowes that worked well.... but certainly not a "shooting glove". They are in my range bag.....I believe they are Carhartt. Probably one of these but I didn't look for them.

http://www.carhartt.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... =1&x=0&y=0

I wonder if there is a specialized glove used in winter conditions in some other line of work? Like aircraft mechanics? Perhaps a solutioln that would serve better and allow inrtricate feel instead of feeling like you have mittens on?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:38 pm 
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I'm pretty sure anything that allows the intricate feel required for a quality shooting glove is not going to provide any significant protection from prolonged exposure to high temperatures.

Color me sceptical but I'm a solid believer in the basic principals of thermodynamics.

Trying to get a perfect balance between a shooting glove and a welders glove ain't gonna happen, it's futile.

Buy some decent shooting gloves and carry a silicone pot holder in your back pocket.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:33 pm 
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Mechanix gloves + a silicone pot holder in your range bag(or hunting bag).

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:25 pm 
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Off to bed bath and beyond then...

Think they'll look at me funny when I ask for a tactical pot holder in digital camo?


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dan9591 wrote:
Off to bed bath and beyond then...

Think they'll look at me funny when I ask for a tactical pot holder in digital camo?


There's always woodland:
http://tango-home.com/product_info.php?products_id=135

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:37 pm 
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Libertarian_Geek wrote:
dan9591 wrote:
Off to bed bath and beyond then...

Think they'll look at me funny when I ask for a tactical pot holder in digital camo?


There's always woodland:
http://tango-home.com/product_info.php?products_id=135


Holy crap it really exists! :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:39 pm 
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Has anyone tried Nomex driving gloves for tightening/removing a hot suppressor? These are relatively thin and tactile gloves made of a fire-resistant material to protect a driver's hands in a fire. They usually have leather pads sewn onto the palm and finger grip areas (all Nomex stitching).

I don't expect these to be a cost-effective option for most, but for those of us who already have them, they seem like a possible middle-ground between thermal management and comfort/feel.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:51 pm 
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I would think fire resistant and heat resistant are two different things. Depending on the leather and thickness of it, they may work. All I use are a pair of black leather gloves (old mil surp), now I wouldn't stand there holding a hot rifle can for several minutes, but they work good enough to unscrew it and screw it back on to a new gun, or set it down on the bench to cool.


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Wahnsinn wrote:
I would think fire resistant and heat resistant are two different things. Depending on the leather and thickness of it, they may work. All I use are a pair of black leather gloves (old mil surp), now I wouldn't stand there holding a hot rifle can for several minutes, but they work good enough to unscrew it and screw it back on to a new gun, or set it down on the bench to cool.


I'm not as sure about the gloves, but the driver suits can protect the wearer from direct flame for over 20 seconds without any third-degree burns on covered skin (often just a couple second-degree near cuffs). Now these are two- or three-layer suits, while the gloves are single-layer and specifically designed to be thin and breathable, but I was thinking they could be used for the occasional tightening, and even removing a hot 9mm/45 pistol can. The leather pads are suede, but the material chosen resists any burning or melting, which could lead to prolonged exposure to high temps, and burning of the driver's hands.


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Do a google search for Nomex Flight gloves. Blackhawk has some others types that have more padding:

http://www.blackhawk.com/catalog/Nomex-Gloves,1498.htm

But having flown and shot with these for years, I stick with these:

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They're thin enough to have a dexterity and tactilness, but will handle the occasional re-tightening of a loose suppressor or take one off the weapon after sustained firing.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:10 pm 
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I snagged a pair of Camelback "Heat" gloves after reading quite a few good reviews. I havent gotten to handle a hot suppressor with them yet, but they were designed to swap out SAW barrels and the like.


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Bone16 wrote:
Do a google search for Nomex Flight gloves. Blackhawk has some others types that have more padding:

http://www.blackhawk.com/catalog/Nomex-Gloves,1498.htm

But having flown and shot with these for years, I stick with these:

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They're thin enough to have a dexterity and tactilness, but will handle the occasional re-tightening of a loose suppressor or take one off the weapon after sustained firing.


Interesting, I wasn't aware of flight gloves. So is the leather in the palm and finger grip areas a high-heat-resistant type? And the nomex covers underneath that entire leather section?


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everyusernametaken wrote:
Bone16 wrote:
Do a google search for Nomex Flight gloves. Blackhawk has some others types that have more padding:

http://www.blackhawk.com/catalog/Nomex-Gloves,1498.htm

But having flown and shot with these for years, I stick with these:

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They're thin enough to have a dexterity and tactilness, but will handle the occasional re-tightening of a loose suppressor or take one off the weapon after sustained firing.


Interesting, I wasn't aware of flight gloves. So is the leather in the palm and finger grip areas a high-heat-resistant type? And the nomex covers underneath that entire leather section?


No, it does not go under the leather section, it is a relatively thin leather palm. As long as you dont hold onto it for very long it will work okay. I prefer Hatch Operator shorty gloves, kelvar lined as well except they have a little thicker leather palm, with a small pad built into the bottom part of the palm. They work great for grabbing super hot mg barrels, suppressors, hair, etc...


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tsands974 wrote:
They work great for grabbing super hot mg barrels, suppressors, hair, etc...


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tsands974 wrote:
everyusernametaken wrote:
Bone16 wrote:
Do a google search for Nomex Flight gloves. Blackhawk has some others types that have more padding:

http://www.blackhawk.com/catalog/Nomex-Gloves,1498.htm

But having flown and shot with these for years, I stick with these:

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They're thin enough to have a dexterity and tactilness, but will handle the occasional re-tightening of a loose suppressor or take one off the weapon after sustained firing.


Interesting, I wasn't aware of flight gloves. So is the leather in the palm and finger grip areas a high-heat-resistant type? And the nomex covers underneath that entire leather section?


No, it does not go under the leather section, it is a relatively thin leather palm. As long as you dont hold onto it for very long it will work okay. I prefer Hatch Operator shorty gloves, kelvar lined as well except they have a little thicker leather palm, with a small pad built into the bottom part of the palm. They work great for grabbing super hot mg barrels, suppressors, hair, etc...


I checked out some Hatch Operator HK300 gloves at a local shop, and I'm impressed with the overall quality, though a little pricey at about $60. I'll probably go with them, but I want to check out some of the Camelback gloves in person before I decide.

Ole! :)


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:10 pm 
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Oakley FR Fast Rope's, hands down. They're made w/ dual layer nomex & are flame resistant. I've literally burned/ripped through dozens of Mechanix Wear's before I bit the bullet and threw down the extra cash for the FR's. They're my go to range glove, just chopped off the upper half trigger finger.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:10 pm 
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Try some nomex flight gloves, the ones with leather palms. They have worked well for me. They resist moderate heat and direct flame, don't melt, and they give a good feel.

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This is seemingly an old thread, but I'll add my two cents.

I began using Mechanix gloves https://under-the-open-sky.com/best-hunting-gloves/ since the late 2000s. Still, use them today, and don't think about replace, even in USPSA and Bowling Pin. I tried Pigs and Oakleys and some other tactically oriented gloves, but I consistently return to the Mechanix line. They are don't expensive, you can buy them in every shop, and they are at the right intersection of thin and dexterous and sufficiently protective.

With all the thin gloves, I noticed that fingertips wear out quickly if you wear them while loading magazines. Not much resistance to abrasion - this is a compromise that you get for thin.

These days I wear bright red, especially in competitions. It is easy to find and simplify for RO to know exactly where my finger is.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:38 am 
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Jetaro wrote:
It is easy to find and simplify for RO to know exactly where my finger is.

Off topic but you jogged a memory. Shot with a guy one that had a stub for a trigger finger on his strong hand - he used his middle finger to shoot.

We had travelled to a large match and on one stage the RO shouted STOP! and DQed him for finger in the trigger guard while moving. He called a bunch of folks up that knew him before he questioned the RO...

Shooter (holding up his support hand and extending his index finger): You saw this finger on my firing hand in the trigger guard while I was moving?
RO: Yes
Shooter (holding up his firing hand): How could that be?

You could see the moment while the RO considered changing his story to save face, looked around at all the witnesses and decided to apologize instead (and run him again).

For the record, this guy usually told ROs unfamilliar with him about his missing finger before running a course, becuase it really did look like his trigger finger was deep within the trigger guard most of the time.

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