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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:48 pm 
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I will post what I have and people can add their photos to it. I have some AAC stuff now that they released to me early. During/after the show I will post stuff from other makers. You may click on any photo to see it larger.


This is a photo of the new AAC SCAR-H flash hider shown next to their other flash hiders (such as the new YHM/AAC Phantom beside it). It goes over-the-barrel as a two-point mount. Pay special notice of the threads. They start in five different places and turn on with a SINGLE rotation! The silencer body, which I won't have a photo of until later, is nicely engraved with five numbers -- so you can find the setting which has the least point-of-impact shift for your rifle and use that number each time.

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Here is that same flash hider on a Remington 700.

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Note that the barrel goes all the way up to those wrench-flats so the silencer does not add as much over-all-length to the rifle as a conventional mount.

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It makes for a very compact package

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And here is the flash hider on an FN-SCAR rifle.

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This is an AAC 762-SD silencer on an FN SCAR-H rifle:


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And here is the FN SCAR-L right with the AAC SCAR-SD suppressor and YHM/AAC Phantom flash hider.

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And with me holding it (Photo by Amish Bill) ...

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Robert, I like how that last picture came out

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John, are you coming out of the closet? LOL!

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No, I just appreciate a well shot photo

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That was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

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Yes, you should know -- these rifles are amazing. The military should buy lots of them.


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A fully reciprocating charging handle? That seems like a step backwards. Great video Robert, as always.


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AWESOME VIDEO!!!

I am guessing that they used a fully reciprocating charging handle so that they would not need a stand alone forward assist or silent bolt closure device.

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Sorry, I had to kill the photos and video for a bit. If anyony copied them, please do me a favor and not repost them until you see me put them up again. It is important.


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Wiley wrote:
AWESOME VIDEO!!!

I am guessing that used a fully reciprocating charging handle so that they would not need a stand alone forward assist or silent bolt closure device.

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Yes, I’m familiar with what people claim they’re good for. I also know that the best combat arms in their respective class, the FN FAL and the M16, don’t have them. While not my personal choice, people seem to think highly of the MP5 in the subgun class and that doesn’t have one either. I’m sure it’s a nice gun, just kind of surprised to see the fixed handle is all.


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What is the barrel length of the Remington 700 in the picture? Does that mount have to be special ordered? Lastly, will it work on a Savage 10FP LE2B?

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The barrel length was 20 or maybe 21 inches.

The mount comes with the Mk.17 silencer, a model which is not out yet.

It will work on any barrel if the barrel is turned, and many barrels without special work.


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I am unfamiliar with the Mk.17 I suspect this won't work on the 762-SD


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The 762-SD is a different model with a different mount.

The Mk17 silencer has to meet certain criteria for that project.


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Okay...Thanks. It just will give me an excuse to buy another suppressor. Not a bad thing at all! :lol:


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It looked like you didn't wear ear plugs while shooting the SCAR L inside. It must be very quiet. Does FN know when (what year) these will be available to the civilian public. ? I have budgeted a SIG 556 for this summer's puchase. Also, the ejection port did not emit much smoke for being suppressed.


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I did not feel ear plugs were needed, even inside, with the rifle/can combination. The suppressor we used is the same one that AAC is offering in their 2006 catalog.

I hope they do. They could sell a lot of them and I would have to have some.


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Are they coming out with a semi 556 this summer?


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I have already placed my name on the product notification list at Ordnance Outsellers in FL. I was told that the rifle would be available around August. No deposit required, just leave your name to be notified when they are in.

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I did not see any referrence to the 556


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I did not feel ear plugs were needed, even inside, with the rifle/can combination. The suppressor we used is the same one that AAC is offering in their 2006 catalog.

I hope they do. They could sell a lot of them and I would have to have some.


Are you saying this new can is even better then the M4-2000? Or is the rifle also playing a part? Would you have done that (no ear pro) with the M4-2000 on the same rifle?

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The can is smaller and louder than an M4-2000, but it is lighter and more accurate. Yes I would have done that with an M4-2000. Also the longer barrel helped.


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rsilvers wrote:
The can is smaller and louder than an M4-2000, but it is lighter and more accurate. Yes I would have done that with an M4-2000. Also the longer barrel helped.


Thanks for the info.. The can is more accurate? Or the rifle was more accurate? Or the can shifted POA less because it was lighter?

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The can is more accurate and the can shifted point of impact less in a test I know of. I believe that was the #1 design goal of the SCAR-SD can as specified in the SOCOM requirements. I think the M4-2000 was second best in the test of many cans. I don't think it was the weight that made the difference compared to the M4-2000 but rather (I am guessing) the length and any internal changes. AAC has stated on this board that lessons they learn from the SCAR-SD can development will eventually make their way into the M4-2000. This might happen gradually as they share common revised parts, or it might happen as a 2007 model. I am not sure.


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