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HB1561 new SBR bill

Post by ranb » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:07 pm

Time to hit the ground running guys and gals.

New SBR bill

The cast of characters increased to 32 people; sponsors: Representatives Blake, Hurst, Schmick, Takko, Hope, Kretz, Kirby, Kristiansen, Overstreet, Tharinger, Nealey, Van De Wege, Wilcox, Klippert, Chandler, Buys, Warnick, Orcutt, MacEwen, Liias, Goodman, Haigh, Moscoso, Moeller, Taylor, Roberts, Short, Shea, Condotta, Sawyer, Fagan, Sells.

The new words for RCW 9.41.190 include;
It is not unlawful for a person to possess, transport, acquire,
16 or transfer a short-barreled rifle that is legally registered and
17 possessed, transported, acquired, or transferred in accordance with
18 federal law.
SBR are removed from the short list of firearms that are required to be registered prior to July 1, 1994. So in effect this bill just brings us into compliance with federal law.

Write to your Reps and Senators to encourage them to support the bill. If you know any police or licensed dealers, ask them to write or show up at the hearings. The police want and need this bill too.

I have letters from Judge Appelwick, one of the authors of the bill that banned SBR in 1994 telling me that Olympia banned SBR just because they could meaning it was not a crime prevention measure at all. I also have a limited amount of crime data from various counties which show only one SBR related crime in the State. If anyone needs advice on writing or meeting with their Representative or Senator let me know, I can help

The is a link for commenting on the bill in the link above, it is also here; https://washingtonleg.granicusideas.com ... /HB%201561 Please post polite positive and accurate comments there.

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Re: HB1561 new SBR bill

Post by ranb » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:31 pm

I finally got a hold of Representative Pederson's aide, Katy Buck. I asked for a meeting to discuss 1561 but she told me that the deadline (self imposed by the chairman I presume) to schedule a House bill for a Judiciary committee hearing was Tuesday 2/12/13. I was surprised to hear this and told her so. She asked if the bill had any Democrat support. I told her that 14 of the 32 sponsors are Democrats, the prime sponsor is also a Democrat and that this bill appears to have more sponsors than any other gun bill pro or con except for the background check bill (1588). She said she would get back to me later. This was at about 9:30 am today.

Have any pro-gun bills had a hearing this session? If not I have to admit I expected more from Pedersen this session. So much for getting my hopes up. I don't know if lots more calls to Pedersen's office will help, but it is worth a shot. Calling the bill sponsors might help too.

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Re: HB1561 new SBR bill (and new Senate SNR bill)

Post by ranb » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:19 pm

I met with Pedersen a several months ago where he told me that he would not give the House SBR bill a hearing in 2014. He did say that he probably give a Senate SBR bill a hearing if it made it to the House.

Senator Hatfield is sponsoring SB 5956; http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary ... 13#history No text or sponsors yet though. This is a start though. At least we now have a bill number we can reference.

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Re: HB1561 new SBR bill (and new Senate SNR bill)

Post by jrh888 » Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:58 pm

ranb wrote:I met with Pedersen a several months ago where he told me that he would not give the House SBR bill a hearing in 2014. He did say that he probably give a Senate SBR bill a hearing if it made it to the House.

Senator Hatfield is sponsoring SB 5956; http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary ... &year=2013
Where the SBR bill passed 47-0 in the state Senate.


Which concludes:

IN THE HOUSE

Feb 20 First reading, referred to Judiciary (Not Officially read and referred until adoption of Introduction report.)

Feb 26 Scheduled for public hearing in the House Committee on Judiciary at 3:30 PM. (Subject to change)

Does that mean that we should make an unexpected trip to Olympia tomorrow, or what?

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Re: HB1561 new SBR bill

Post by ranb » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:35 pm

HB 1561 is dead, Jinkins did not give it an executive hearing prior to the deadline. SB 5956 is the same bill in the Senate. It is being discussed here; viewtopic.php?f=4&t=122461

I'll be there; driving from Belfair if you are close and need a ride.

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Re: HB1561 new SBR bill

Post by ranb » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:53 am

SB 5956 is dead. Jinkins will not schedule it for an executive hearing prior to 2/28. Thirteen of us (all pro) showed for the hearing and for the most part it went well. Afterwards one of the other committee members told us there was a chance the Speaker of the House of Representatives (Chopp) might pull the bill for a vote on the House floor, but it is a very slim one.

I'm not sure what course of action to take prior to next session; got months to think about it. All I know is we did a damn good job; we just need to figure out how to get Jinkins to support the bill. Jinkins was not able to move other gun bills like I-594 and the safe storage bill out of committee. I-594 sucked so of course it went nowhere; the safe storage bill seemed ok, not sure why it died.

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Re: HB1561 new SBR bill

Post by ranb » Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:16 am

5956 is listed as "Committee relieved of further consideration" and should be headed for a vote on the House floor Friday. It is not too late to e-mail your Representatives.

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Re: HB1561 new SBR bill

Post by Abiqua » Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:09 am

WHAT!!
I thought it was dead.

Good news indeed. I have emailed my representatives. Thanks for the update!

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Re: HB1561 new SBR bill

Post by ranb » Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:24 pm

I guess it's not actually dead until the end of the session. The Speaker pulled it to the House floor yesterday and it passed 95-3 this morning. SBR's will be legal again in WA on about Jun 11. Both bill sponsors work their asses off for this bill.

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ETA; Thanks for your help Glenn.
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Post by Abiqua » Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:11 pm

Thanks for your hard work on this, ranb!

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Re: HB1561 new SBR bill

Post by ranb » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:52 am

Inslee signed the bill; it becomes law on June 12ish.

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Re: HB1561 new SBR bill

Post by Abiqua » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:11 pm

At what point will the ATF accept forms? Do we have to wait until 12 Jun?

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Re: HB1561 new SBR bill

Post by ranb » Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:42 pm

I'm going to wait until June unless I hear that they are accepting them right away.

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Re: HB1561 new SBR bill

Post by redtazdog » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:05 pm

I'm still waiting to hear if we can form 1 a sbr or are we stuck with only can purchase one made.

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Re: HB1561 new SBR bill

Post by ranb » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:31 pm

I always figured that acquire also meant make or manufacture. I guess I should have pressed the bill sponsor to make changes.

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Re: HB1561 new SBR bill

Post by yondering » Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:23 pm

Do you guys have any new info about this? I'm reading that Form 1's have been rejected recently because of this wording about aquire vs make.

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Re: HB1561 new SBR bill

Post by aneckas » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:21 am

Probably a whole lot more than you really care to know and might make your head explode.

http://waguns.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=56050&start=75

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Re: HB1561 new SBR bill

Post by yondering » Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:30 pm

Thanks, that helps. So, if I understand correctly:

- unidentified DOL employee contacts the ATF and says they should stop approving WA Form 1 SBR applications
- ATF denies a bunch of Form 1's, puts the rest on hold
- DOL says their employee was not acting under DOL's authority, was not a recognized department representative
- People are trying to fix it, who knows when or how long.

Is that about right?

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