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Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Post by Theron Patron » Sat May 19, 2018 9:00 pm

Hello,
I need your expertise! I am getting ready to purchase my first suppressor and only knowledge I have is looking at YouTube videos so I like the Obsidian rugged suppressor. I called up to the silencer shop and a gentleman told me about the Griffin resolution 9. I guess it all boils down to the suppressed ammo that you put in the weapon. I looked at it video by twang and bang on the Obsidian and it seems to be the quietest.

Can you guys give me a hand with this any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Post by mars » Thu May 24, 2018 11:39 pm

i've got no experience with either of those cans, but i have an SWR can from way back and would have no problems buying anything Rugged. in fact, the obsidian 9/45 is the next can i'm going to buy.
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Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Post by Deserteaglexxx » Fri May 25, 2018 10:23 pm

Rugged obsidian all the way.

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Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Post by ogree » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:04 pm

Deserteaglexxx wrote:Rugged obsidian all the way.
+1 for the Rugged Obsidian !

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Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Post by Hannibalbarca » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:14 am

I’d say the griffin.
Several reasons.
It uses 7075 t6 for the tube which is much better than 6061 aluminum.
Griffin is a more established company than rugged suppressors
It is rated for more calibers and at fairly short barrels even if you do have to wait to cool after 7 rounds.
There are many accessories for it, including an 17-4 expansion chamber/adapter which allows you to fire rifle calibers at shorter barrels or greater number of rounds or larger more powerful calibers that goes onto their excellent muzzle brakes via quick detach taper system(personally I think the standard should be the sig tapered barrel idea and this should have been standard from day 1 for all thread pitches, rant over.).

In short the griffin is simply better all around, not sure if the baffles are h900 treated though, could have been beef blasted or something.

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Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Post by BamaBred » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:52 pm

Out of those two I'd probably go Griffin if you plan on putting in on a rifle sometimes. Overall, if I were buying a 9mm can, I'd get a CGS Kraken.

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Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Post by Hannibalbarca » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:39 pm

BamaBred wrote:Out of those two I'd probably go Griffin if you plan on putting in on a rifle sometimes. Overall, if I were buying a 9mm can, I'd get a CGS Kraken.
Why would you go with baffles made from 7075 aluminum vs heat treated 17-4 stainless?

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Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Post by BamaBred » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:53 am

Hannibalbarca wrote:
BamaBred wrote:Out of those two I'd probably go Griffin if you plan on putting in on a rifle sometimes. Overall, if I were buying a 9mm can, I'd get a CGS Kraken.
Why would you go with baffles made from 7075 aluminum vs heat treated 17-4 stainless?

I was under the impression that the Griffin is more versatile. Am I incorrect? Also, weight could be another factor. The Obsidian is heavy. Again, I'm not sure either would be my first second or third choice. Depends on what you're looking for I guess.

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Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Post by Hannibalbarca » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:24 pm

BamaBred wrote:
Hannibalbarca wrote:
BamaBred wrote:Out of those two I'd probably go Griffin if you plan on putting in on a rifle sometimes. Overall, if I were buying a 9mm can, I'd get a CGS Kraken.
Why would you go with baffles made from 7075 aluminum vs heat treated 17-4 stainless?

I was under the impression that the Griffin is more versatile. Am I incorrect? Also, weight could be another factor. The Obsidian is heavy. Again, I'm not sure either would be my first second or third choice. Depends on what you're looking for I guess.
I was replying to you preferring to get the cgs kraken above the griffin and obsidian.
Also, the weight difference between the obisidian and Kraken is only 2.75 oz. that’s not noticeable.

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Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Post by Operator119 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:29 am

I happen to own both just by chance and on 9mm subguns and suppressed 300Blk I give the edge to the Griffin Revo 9, and for duty size, compact, and subcompact hosts I've had better luck with the Obsidian 45 because of the larger bore diameter, it really cuts down on blowback which was a big problem in my CZ75B and still kind of was bothersome in my Glocks. Another added benefit to having a 45 can is that sometimes it has a lower tone for smaller calibers and you can use it for more calibers as well, just something to think about. I bought a 9mm can first when I never thought I'd get any larger calibers and no I have a lot of other stuff in 10mm and 45ACP so I'm glad I picked up an Obsidian as well. Both are very good quality though.

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Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Post by BamaBred » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:54 pm

Hannibalbarca wrote:
BamaBred wrote:
Hannibalbarca wrote: Why would you go with baffles made from 7075 aluminum vs heat treated 17-4 stainless?

I was under the impression that the Griffin is more versatile. Am I incorrect? Also, weight could be another factor. The Obsidian is heavy. Again, I'm not sure either would be my first second or third choice. Depends on what you're looking for I guess.
I was replying to you preferring to get the cgs kraken above the griffin and obsidian.
Also, the weight difference between the obisidian and Kraken is only 2.75 oz. that’s not noticeable.
Ah. Gotcha. I like the Kraken because I'm a CGS fanboy and think they make the quietest cans out of anyone (I have their .22 can). But I don't disagree with you about the merits of SS vs. aluminum in general.

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Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Post by gsyoung54 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:41 pm

Theron Patron wrote:Hello,
I need your expertise! I am getting ready to purchase my first suppressor and only knowledge I have is looking at YouTube videos so I like the Obsidian rugged suppressor. I called up to the silencer shop and a gentleman told me about the Griffin resolution 9. I guess it all boils down to the suppressed ammo that you put in the weapon. I looked at it video by twang and bang on the Obsidian and it seems to be the quietest.

Can you guys give me a hand with this any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
I like my Obsidian but have always felt it has a noisy tone to it, sharper perhaps than my Octane or the AAC TiRant 45M's I have... The Tirants are light, easy to clean, modular and often not quite as expensive. I don't have a Griffin Revolution but Dustin Ellerman sure likes his.

How about the Dead Air Ghost M? supposed to be the new standard?? I have on on order but have yet to shoot one. I've always wanted a Silencerco Osprey 45. It's the quietest 9mm can I've ever shot and sounds good on .45... must be all that volume. But I just can't get past the fact you can't open it up and look at it or clean it. But then I saw Ben Affleck use one in "The Accountant" and it looked pretty cool. I've been know to buy guns and things just because of how they look.... but I'm weird like that.
George from Alaska

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Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Post by bearchills » Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:28 pm

I am tossing back and forth, trying to decide on one of these cans.
It's between the Obsidian and Revolution, but also between caliber too. I don't have a 45 host to suppress right now, so it will be for my Scorpion and G19(23convert). But that doesn't mean I'll never have a 45 host gun. And IF/when that time comes, it would be nice to not have to wait a year..

Does anyone have extensive experience with both (all 4?) of these cans?
It looks like almost a year since anyone's commented here. I'm a little surprised.
Are any of you able to give an update on how you feel about these silencers and how they stack up?

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Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Post by gsyoung54 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:16 pm

I need to go back on something I told you yesterday. Just watched a new video from Griffin Armament that did a side by side comparison with a mil spec sound meter with the Revo 9 and the Obsidian 9 both in the short configuration and the Revo was considerably quieter. They did not do a side by side comparison of them in the long configurations. When they added Griffins new wipe containing end cap to the Revo 9 it lowered the sound by another 4 or so dB, that is substantial. They did not add the new end cap to the Obsidian although their video says it will fit. Watch it here at:

https://www.griffinarmament.com/stealth ... ppressors/

the video is down the page a bit.
George from Alaska

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Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Post by bearchills » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:20 pm

gsyoung54 wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:16 pm
I need to go back on something I told you yesterday.
Wait, are you talking to me? I didn't see you say anything yesterday... ?
Did you maybe think you replied, but the website glitched and deleted your response instead of posting it?
I ask because that has happened to me on this website, nearly a dozen times already, as I have tried to post my 3 comments. This is my third time typing this reply to you. .

Tbh, at first I was pretty solid on the Revo 45. But the more I think about it, the more I find myself leaning heavily towards the Obsidian 9.
The Obsidian 9 is just so much smaller in it's short configuration. I feel like that would mean a whole lot to me on a bedside gun.
I can see that the Revo 9 is quieter than the Obsidian 9, but like you said, they don't show a comparison of the full length tubes. The Obsidian is something like 2 inches shorter than Revo in their short arrangement, so I'm not surprised it's a few dbs louder.

That flash hider end cap with wipes would definitely be a great addition to any of those cans. You're right, it does seem to make a substantial difference. But I thought there was something about wipes being illegal now.. something about the stupid ATF thinking they are a part of the suppressor..?
I don't understand why they would even make something for wipes if that's the case now. Maybe I am misunderstanding something..

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Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Post by gsyoung54 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:06 pm

Yes, I replied to your recent post asking if anyone had experience with the cans you were considering and I said the Obsidian 9 had better numbers on the Silemcer Shop RTR's.
I'm seriously considering getting a Revolution .45 and a Revo 9mm now. I have quite a few Griffin accessories for other suppressors in my store and it wouid make sense.... plus I don't need much pushing to get more cans. I want to be like Adam at the NFA Review Channel who has a dedicated can for everything on his wall!
George from Alaska

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