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MSTN
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Thermal Defense Solutions suppressors

Post by MSTN » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:39 pm

A good place to start to learn about TDS:

https://www.recoilweb.com/issue-43-150627.html

3D printing with SLM (selective laser melting) of 25 micron particles of Iconel 718 and design theory generated (at taxpayer expense) by Oak Ridge National Laboratory. That's some amazing technology in play, the sort I never even imagined existed.

The part of the above article that really brought it all home was the X-ray of the two suppressors.

There is another decent article on TDS in "Small Arms Review":

http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display. ... icles=4113

The TDS website is not up to date with info on their second generation suppressors. Pay no attention to their specs:

https://thermaldefenseinc.com

Two of the five businesses listed as dealers aren't. Making suppressors for current .gov orders is apparently taking time away from keeping the website all pretty.

An example of their (excellent) warranty:

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Images of their current suppressor line up:

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From big to small, with my opinion as to the optimum application for each:

Strix II - 17 OZ, 7.9" - for the Mk 48 belt-fed 7.62 plus heavy 7.62 caliber rifles

Badger II 7.62 - 17 OZ, 6.9" - for AK's and 7.62x51 gassers

Badger II 5.56 - 13 OZ, 6.75" - for short barrel 5.56 SBR's

Bantam II - 8.5 OZ, 5" - for 14.5" and longer 5.56 gassers

I've shot the Bantam II and Badger II 5.56. They're lightweight, very quiet, very accurate, and have truly minimal gas blow-back. The ejected brass doesn't look like it came out of a gas gun.

Looking inside the back of these with a borescope is interesting. Imagine a perfectly concentric Nautilus shell sawn in half...

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I have everything they make in stock, with more on the way. My website does not yet show the Badger 7.62, but it's here.

No chance yet to use a sound meter. Hopefully, that will change soon.

Good shooting,

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Re: Thermal Defense Solutions suppressors

Post by Matt in TN » Tue May 12, 2020 11:16 am

Good review - thanks! These honestly sound too good to be true, so I keep watching for more 3rd party reviews before I commit.

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Re: Thermal Defense Solutions suppressors

Post by whiterussian1974 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:53 am

Your link is slightly wrong, but I found the correct one: https://www.recoilweb.com/thermal-defen ... 50653.html

You also mention X-rays of the Models. Yet I found drawings labeled: "The patent drawings show that these are anything but normal baffles."

Beautiful find for us though, thanks.
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Re: Thermal Defense Solutions suppressors

Post by MSTN » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:56 am

The new "Nocturnal", an uncatalogued 300 Blackout suppressor, is working out quite well for me. In use with US Marshals plus a certain element in SOCOM.

I like the extremely light weight (13.3 ounces), almost 7 ounces lighter than my SF SOCOM 300 SPS, with much less blowback. It's a bit louder but the trade-off is worth it to me.

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