Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

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Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by dark2023 » Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:53 pm

My HTA Guardian .22 showed up about a week ago, thank to NCSilencer.

This is my first suppressor so I may not be the best person to do a review, but there is very little info of this suppressor online and I want ot do my best to remedy that.

When I first unpackaged the suppressor I noticed it was fairly light, maybe a few ounces. The tube appears to be steel.
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The suppressor has a rear portion made a bit thicker and tougher than the rest, this is the serialized part. If there was to be an issue it would most definitely occur past this point and allows the suppressor to be easily sent back to HTA for repair without needing to file and pay for a new stamp.

Taking a look at the back of the suppressor shows that it has holes drilled into it around the main threads and opening. These holes do not lead anywhere and I assume are there just to reduce weight.
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The front of the suppressor is also removable, and easily unscrews. It has a unique shape most likely meant to be easily gripped by pliers or a wrench.
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The suppressor can be easily unscrewed with minimal force by hand. I assume it will get harder with fouling. There are 7 baffles, 6 of which have a tubular extension so that they easily click into place with one another and help prevent allowing fouling into the tube, this in theory will help the baffles be removed from the tube for cleaning. The first baffle is steel while the rest are unanodized aluminum.
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The suppressor fits well on my new .22lr PPK
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I have fired this set together over 100 times now, they work quite well together. The sound dry is akin to a gos blowback airsoft gun, a dull but noticeable pop.
When shot with water or wire pulling gel the suppressor sound very similar to some holly wood interpretations, it makes a VERY soft -thwoop-, with is definitely quieter than most pellet guns.

I am VERY impressed by this performance. I would love to suggest anyone looking for an inexpensive suppressor look into the new Huntertown Arms .22lr suppressors. They are very effective and quite compact. The design is well thought out and they are not difficult to clean or disassemble.

If you are in NC I would love to mention that NCSilencer is a great resource for purchasing suppressors. They helped me through the process of creating a trust and filed most of the paper work for me. The price was also great, with everything included (even shipping) they were able to offer me a price just under MSRP+tax stamp. Not to mention that they did a good job keeping in contact with me and answering questions I had along the way.
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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by Faulkner » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:05 pm

Thanks for the review. I have one in the vault at my local gunshop waiting on the BATF to process the paperwork.
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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by 11C1P » Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:08 am

Nice to know a low price doesn't translate into low quality.

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by Bendersquint » Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:59 pm

11C1P wrote:Nice to know a low price doesn't translate into low quality.
You aren't familiar with HTA are you? ;)

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by ericdraven » Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:03 pm

NC silencer good company here in NC , i used them to get my first one a spectre2,i only wish all suppressors had info on end cap . like you said if something goes wrong , easy to replace .

they set up my trust as well :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by Lateck » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:21 am

Faulkner wrote:Thanks for the review. I have one in the vault at my local gunshop waiting on the BATF to process the paperwork.
Ditto.....
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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by 11C1P » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:43 am

Bendersquint wrote:
11C1P wrote:Nice to know a low price doesn't translate into low quality.
You aren't familiar with HTA are you? ;)
Are you saying they are crap?

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by Bendersquint » Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:12 am

11C1P wrote:
Bendersquint wrote:
11C1P wrote:Nice to know a low price doesn't translate into low quality.
You aren't familiar with HTA are you? ;)
Are you saying they are crap?
On par with the YHM Mite, there are alot better options out there.

IME most people buy HTA because its the one the local SOT has on hand.

Buyers remorse is not a fun thing to deal with.

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by dark2023 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:27 pm

On par with the YHM Mite, there are alot better options out there.

IME most people buy HTA because its the one the local SOT has on hand.

Buyers remorse is not a fun thing to deal with.
That may have been true for the generation 1 HTA Guardian, and while I will say it's not the best, it's definitely not bad.
My HTA Guardian Gen 2 sounds pretty much the same to my ear as a Silcerco Sparrow that I shot on a Ruger sp22
Also, the sparrow has first round pop, mine not so much.

For the money, I could not be happier.
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Post by David Hineline » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:06 am

You spent more on your passport than you did your silencer.
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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian

Post by Wicked » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:20 am

There are many better options, but they all cost more. These econo-cans do have their place. HTA doesn't do a terrible job, but I'm slightly surprised they're still around. The low end can market must be stronger than I think. Look at Hi Point! They sell more of those in a week than I make all year.

Mostly I'd suggest these to guys considering building a Form 1 can because they want to save money. This will be better than 95% of anything most people could make themselves. The HTA stuff is safe, durable and works. It doesn't cost a bunch either and they're available without waiting. That's largely what the casual consumer looks for, especially in a first purchase.

Yes, you get (or don't get) what you pay for, but to many this still a good deal. If you're happy with your purchase run with it. I own a bunch of stuff nobody else will ever want and I don't care.
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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by Bradpierson26 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:26 pm

Glad you're happy.

Hope you never need their C.S.

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by bwp777 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:27 pm

don't know about the .22 but I am unfortunately familiar w/ the 762 can. u can see my review and update on utube under bwp777. if u don't have time just consider them garbage.

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by Faulkner » Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:17 pm

I've been pleased with my HTA Guardian SS. Simple enough to disassemble and clean and sound suppression is equal to my Surefire Ryder.
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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by Bendersquint » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:19 am

Faulkner wrote:I've been pleased with my HTA Guardian SS. Simple enough to disassemble and clean and sound suppression is equal to my Surefire Ryder.
Thats doesn't say alot about the Ryder. :roll:

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by psode27 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:41 pm

I have a HTA Gen1, I have no complaints other than the aluminum baffles. nice and light, but cleaning is a PITA. I'll be sending it in for an upgrade to the kestrel core deal. Pretty excited.

I guess I havent heard TONS of 22 cans, but I dont see the need to spend 500+ on a 22 can. I know that some do, and thats great, but the HTA is silly quiet as it is. When I was looking the Sparrow was just released but I couldnt find it anywhere though. 200ish for the can, plus 150 for the kestrel core, and I feel like i'll have a pretty damn tough can.

Not here to argue, guys who spend more get really nice cans too, but I dont feel as though I was misled into a POS by any means.
Have fun with the new can! Love the Bond setup too btw!

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by ericdraven » Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:21 am

what ive read and seen most of it is bad. 2 things you dont do discount shopping for

doctors
suppressors

its a life purchase . save up get a good one .

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by Historian » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:38 am

ericdraven wrote:what ive read and seen most of it is bad. 2 things you dont do discount shopping for

doctors
suppressors

its a life purchase . save up get a good one .
+2!

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Your doctor comment reminds me of the great and funny Rodney Dangerfield's* riff in a Boston Club on
Dr. Batcha-Galoup whose discount medical bills due to your helping him do the sutures during your
circumcision. :)

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by Lateck » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:18 pm

Bendersquint wrote:
11C1P wrote:Nice to know a low price doesn't translate into low quality.
You aren't familiar with HTA are you? ;)
Well, I had the chance to use my Huntertown SS .22 today.
I was comparing it to my Gemtech Alpine.... I could not hear any real difference in suppression.
(Using my Savage FR-TR, out doors). And it was easier to clean with it's SS baffles.

To me, it is on par with the Alpine and over $100 less.
(My two pesos).

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by KiA » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:00 am

the guardian 22 SS has all stainless construction with enclosed K baffles for a retail price of $289.
1) what constitutes a better can?
2) what's a convincing argument that one needs to pay $200 more for the "better" can?

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by rimshaker » Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:28 pm

KiA wrote:the guardian 22 SS has all stainless construction with enclosed K baffles for a retail price of $289.
1) what constitutes a better can?
2) what's a convincing argument that one needs to pay $200 more for the "better" can?
A design where you never have to hammer/pound out the baffles when it comes time to clean it.
And when the baffles/core is out, the tube itself requires no cleaning, since the fouling and lead don't touch the tube.
And because of these reasons mentioned, cleaning intervals can go as high as 2000+ rounds and still be easy to take apart.

Check out the Spectre and Sparrow cans.

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by John Titsworth » Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:35 pm

The Eco-22 suppressor is a much better buy and much quieter as well.

https://youtu.be/UgB6LZwvryk

http://www.xcaliberfirearms.com/?page_id=210

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by KiA » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:01 pm

rimshaker wrote:Check out the Spectre and Sparrow cans.
Spectre has click-together-assembly. the gen2 guardian seems to have the same design. they call it encapsulated.
did you skip over OP's pictures, or am i missing something?

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by Aaron » Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:51 pm

I live local to ADCO and they tried to sell me an HTA 22. I watched that video on the Kestral though so I'm pretty leary.

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Re: Huntertown Arms Guardian .22lr (Gen 2)

Post by MT Don » Tue May 26, 2015 4:46 pm

I have a Gen 1 and was wondering if the Encased K Baffles from the Gen 2 would fit in the Gen 1. You are right about HTA CS being non-responsive. Is the advantage of the Encased K Baffles in the ease of cleaning or do they suppress better? Would the Gen 1 SS baffles suppress better than the aluminum baffles or is it just a case of easier cleaning.

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