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Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 8:00 pm
by Theron Patron
Hello,
I need your expertise! I am getting ready to purchase my first suppressor and only knowledge I have is looking at YouTube videos so I like the Obsidian rugged suppressor. I called up to the silencer shop and a gentleman told me about the Griffin resolution 9. I guess it all boils down to the suppressed ammo that you put in the weapon. I looked at it video by twang and bang on the Obsidian and it seems to be the quietest.

Can you guys give me a hand with this any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 10:39 pm
by mars
i've got no experience with either of those cans, but i have an SWR can from way back and would have no problems buying anything Rugged. in fact, the obsidian 9/45 is the next can i'm going to buy.

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 9:23 pm
by Deserteaglexxx
Rugged obsidian all the way.

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:04 pm
by ogree
Deserteaglexxx wrote:Rugged obsidian all the way.
+1 for the Rugged Obsidian !

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:14 pm
by Hannibalbarca
I’d say the griffin.
Several reasons.
It uses 7075 t6 for the tube which is much better than 6061 aluminum.
Griffin is a more established company than rugged suppressors
It is rated for more calibers and at fairly short barrels even if you do have to wait to cool after 7 rounds.
There are many accessories for it, including an 17-4 expansion chamber/adapter which allows you to fire rifle calibers at shorter barrels or greater number of rounds or larger more powerful calibers that goes onto their excellent muzzle brakes via quick detach taper system(personally I think the standard should be the sig tapered barrel idea and this should have been standard from day 1 for all thread pitches, rant over.).

In short the griffin is simply better all around, not sure if the baffles are h900 treated though, could have been beef blasted or something.

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:52 am
by BamaBred
Out of those two I'd probably go Griffin if you plan on putting in on a rifle sometimes. Overall, if I were buying a 9mm can, I'd get a CGS Kraken.

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:39 pm
by Hannibalbarca
BamaBred wrote:Out of those two I'd probably go Griffin if you plan on putting in on a rifle sometimes. Overall, if I were buying a 9mm can, I'd get a CGS Kraken.
Why would you go with baffles made from 7075 aluminum vs heat treated 17-4 stainless?

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:53 am
by BamaBred
Hannibalbarca wrote:
BamaBred wrote:Out of those two I'd probably go Griffin if you plan on putting in on a rifle sometimes. Overall, if I were buying a 9mm can, I'd get a CGS Kraken.
Why would you go with baffles made from 7075 aluminum vs heat treated 17-4 stainless?

I was under the impression that the Griffin is more versatile. Am I incorrect? Also, weight could be another factor. The Obsidian is heavy. Again, I'm not sure either would be my first second or third choice. Depends on what you're looking for I guess.

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:24 pm
by Hannibalbarca
BamaBred wrote:
Hannibalbarca wrote:
BamaBred wrote:Out of those two I'd probably go Griffin if you plan on putting in on a rifle sometimes. Overall, if I were buying a 9mm can, I'd get a CGS Kraken.
Why would you go with baffles made from 7075 aluminum vs heat treated 17-4 stainless?

I was under the impression that the Griffin is more versatile. Am I incorrect? Also, weight could be another factor. The Obsidian is heavy. Again, I'm not sure either would be my first second or third choice. Depends on what you're looking for I guess.
I was replying to you preferring to get the cgs kraken above the griffin and obsidian.
Also, the weight difference between the obisidian and Kraken is only 2.75 oz. that’s not noticeable.

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:29 am
by Operator119
I happen to own both just by chance and on 9mm subguns and suppressed 300Blk I give the edge to the Griffin Revo 9, and for duty size, compact, and subcompact hosts I've had better luck with the Obsidian 45 because of the larger bore diameter, it really cuts down on blowback which was a big problem in my CZ75B and still kind of was bothersome in my Glocks. Another added benefit to having a 45 can is that sometimes it has a lower tone for smaller calibers and you can use it for more calibers as well, just something to think about. I bought a 9mm can first when I never thought I'd get any larger calibers and no I have a lot of other stuff in 10mm and 45ACP so I'm glad I picked up an Obsidian as well. Both are very good quality though.

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:54 pm
by BamaBred
Hannibalbarca wrote:
BamaBred wrote:
Hannibalbarca wrote: Why would you go with baffles made from 7075 aluminum vs heat treated 17-4 stainless?

I was under the impression that the Griffin is more versatile. Am I incorrect? Also, weight could be another factor. The Obsidian is heavy. Again, I'm not sure either would be my first second or third choice. Depends on what you're looking for I guess.
I was replying to you preferring to get the cgs kraken above the griffin and obsidian.
Also, the weight difference between the obisidian and Kraken is only 2.75 oz. that’s not noticeable.
Ah. Gotcha. I like the Kraken because I'm a CGS fanboy and think they make the quietest cans out of anyone (I have their .22 can). But I don't disagree with you about the merits of SS vs. aluminum in general.

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:41 pm
by gsyoung54
Theron Patron wrote:Hello,
I need your expertise! I am getting ready to purchase my first suppressor and only knowledge I have is looking at YouTube videos so I like the Obsidian rugged suppressor. I called up to the silencer shop and a gentleman told me about the Griffin resolution 9. I guess it all boils down to the suppressed ammo that you put in the weapon. I looked at it video by twang and bang on the Obsidian and it seems to be the quietest.

Can you guys give me a hand with this any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
I like my Obsidian but have always felt it has a noisy tone to it, sharper perhaps than my Octane or the AAC TiRant 45M's I have... The Tirants are light, easy to clean, modular and often not quite as expensive. I don't have a Griffin Revolution but Dustin Ellerman sure likes his.

How about the Dead Air Ghost M? supposed to be the new standard?? I have on on order but have yet to shoot one. I've always wanted a Silencerco Osprey 45. It's the quietest 9mm can I've ever shot and sounds good on .45... must be all that volume. But I just can't get past the fact you can't open it up and look at it or clean it. But then I saw Ben Affleck use one in "The Accountant" and it looked pretty cool. I've been know to buy guns and things just because of how they look.... but I'm weird like that.

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:28 pm
by bearchills
I am tossing back and forth, trying to decide on one of these cans.
It's between the Obsidian and Revolution, but also between caliber too. I don't have a 45 host to suppress right now, so it will be for my Scorpion and G19(23convert). But that doesn't mean I'll never have a 45 host gun. And IF/when that time comes, it would be nice to not have to wait a year..

Does anyone have extensive experience with both (all 4?) of these cans?
It looks like almost a year since anyone's commented here. I'm a little surprised.
Are any of you able to give an update on how you feel about these silencers and how they stack up?

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:16 pm
by gsyoung54
I need to go back on something I told you yesterday. Just watched a new video from Griffin Armament that did a side by side comparison with a mil spec sound meter with the Revo 9 and the Obsidian 9 both in the short configuration and the Revo was considerably quieter. They did not do a side by side comparison of them in the long configurations. When they added Griffins new wipe containing end cap to the Revo 9 it lowered the sound by another 4 or so dB, that is substantial. They did not add the new end cap to the Obsidian although their video says it will fit. Watch it here at:

https://www.griffinarmament.com/stealth ... ppressors/

the video is down the page a bit.

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:20 pm
by bearchills
gsyoung54 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:16 pm I need to go back on something I told you yesterday.
Wait, are you talking to me? I didn't see you say anything yesterday... ?
Did you maybe think you replied, but the website glitched and deleted your response instead of posting it?
I ask because that has happened to me on this website, nearly a dozen times already, as I have tried to post my 3 comments. This is my third time typing this reply to you. .

Tbh, at first I was pretty solid on the Revo 45. But the more I think about it, the more I find myself leaning heavily towards the Obsidian 9.
The Obsidian 9 is just so much smaller in it's short configuration. I feel like that would mean a whole lot to me on a bedside gun.
I can see that the Revo 9 is quieter than the Obsidian 9, but like you said, they don't show a comparison of the full length tubes. The Obsidian is something like 2 inches shorter than Revo in their short arrangement, so I'm not surprised it's a few dbs louder.

That flash hider end cap with wipes would definitely be a great addition to any of those cans. You're right, it does seem to make a substantial difference. But I thought there was something about wipes being illegal now.. something about the stupid ATF thinking they are a part of the suppressor..?
I don't understand why they would even make something for wipes if that's the case now. Maybe I am misunderstanding something..

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:06 pm
by gsyoung54
Yes, I replied to your recent post asking if anyone had experience with the cans you were considering and I said the Obsidian 9 had better numbers on the Silemcer Shop RTR's.
I'm seriously considering getting a Revolution .45 and a Revo 9mm now. I have quite a few Griffin accessories for other suppressors in my store and it wouid make sense.... plus I don't need much pushing to get more cans. I want to be like Adam at the NFA Review Channel who has a dedicated can for everything on his wall!

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:39 am
by bearchills
So I got the Obsidian 9. Stamp came back about a week ago, and I got to try it out this weekend.
That can is stupid quiet! I love it!
Can't compare it to the Griffin, since I didn't get it. But this silencer is easily quieter than every other can I've had the opportunity to hear, irl.
It is obviously louder in short configuration, but it gets pretty quiet still if you put a few drops in it.
I am very satisfied.
But I do think I need to get a dedicated host pistol.
The g23 9mm conversion has issues when you put a can on it. Works great on the beretta 92fs, but I can't put tall sights on that gun and it has no light rail.
Thinking of maybe getting a suppressor ready XD-M.
Open to other suggestions, if anyone has any.
A friend has a CZ P-09 and it's pretty sweet.

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:12 pm
by gsyoung54
If you save up your money the Sig MK25 was born to be suppressed. I can't remember if mine came with suppressor height sights or not but I put fixed TruGlow TFX Pro sights on almost everything. Very bright daytime glow and tritium for night.
I also use my Obsidian 9 on my HK P30L with the LEM trigger

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:28 am
by bearchills
Sigs are cool, but I can't see spending a grand on one. I know the mk25 is supposed to be better than a p226, but I still really can't understand the large cost difference.
Plus, I've always liked Berettas more, but I can't see myself dropping a thousand dollars on a m9a3 either.
It's a little bit hard to imagine myself ever spending that much money on a handgun.

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:50 am
by gsyoung54
I worked two part time jobs while working full time as a Firefighter/Medic and raising four kids by myself. If the cost of a SIg handgun is beyond you, you are going to be very disappointed if you every want a MP5, Noveske Space Invader or a Sig MPX.
You don't have to get the MK25 or Legion and regular SIg 226's come up used all over the place for $475+. Try GunBroker just to get an idea. There is something about the Sig's dwell time that makes it one of the best suppressor hosts ever... the bullet is long gone before the ejection port opens and that can be a big source of noise if it opens too early. It all happens so fast that you'll never notice anything when shooting fast but your can will sound a lot quieter than is it was on many other guns like glocks.

Re: Obsidian or Griffin Resolution 9 mm?

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:44 pm
by jimbo45
I just ordered a rugged obsidian 9. I picked it due to its length and weight. I plan on picking up a q erector 9 when they become available but figured the rugged would be fine till that happens.