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Post by silencertalk » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:59 am

http://www.silencerresearch.com/Premium ... ootout.htm

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Look at the 1.25 inch Evo-9 test on the Glock 19. Then compare it to each of the 1.375 OD cans. Which 1.375 OD cans beat the Evo-9?

On May 3rd, 2009, I posted this:

viewtopic.php?t=38966&start=0
We did not pre-announce this, but for a few months we have been quietly shipping a new Evo-9 design. It is quieter on some platforms (such as the Glock 19) than 1 3/8 inch cans.

If you want a 9mm can and you want it now, this is the one.
On May 5th, 2009, I posted this:

viewtopic.php?t=39067&highlight=evo9
I just summed up some data.

In many cases we had lots of sessions over days or months (since last summer), and I averaged those together. This is far better than a single 10 shot average.

USP9 with American Eagle 147

SWR Trident 127.6, average of 17, 10 shot sessions (170 shots).
AAC Evo-9, 129.3, average of 24, 10 shot sessions (240 shots).
Gemtech MultiMount, 129.8, average of 11, 10 shot sessions (110 shots).
Gemtech Tundra, 130.8, average of 2, 10 shot sessions (20 shots).

Glock 19 with American Eagle 147

AAC Evo-9, 128.2, average of 9, 10 shot sessions (90 shots).
SWR Trident 136.2, average of 5, 10 shot sessions (50 shots).
Compare to John's numbers. Vindicated.

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Post by Fireman1291 » Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:01 pm

Two things.

1. I feel cheated, I wanted to hear them all dry and WET

2. This is to AAC, If I were to buy a newer Evo9(which I want to do) how can I tell its newer from the serial number? At what number UP are the new ones?
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Post by toolfan91 » Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:19 pm

Yeah im not too happy that there werent wet numbers as well... With that being said, if Im only using glocks(17/19/34) as hosts, it looks like I should just get the Evo9 rather than the TiRANT. Rsilvers- didnt you test the glock 19 w/ TiRANT at 122db on the meter?

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Post by silencertalk » Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:33 pm

The new Evo-9 has been shipping for at least 8 months now.

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Post by este » Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:46 pm

toolfan91 wrote:Yeah im not too happy that there werent wet numbers as well... With that being said, if Im only using glocks(17/19/34) as hosts, it looks like I should just get the Evo9 rather than the TiRANT. Rsilvers- didnt you test the glock 19 w/ TiRANT at 122db on the meter?
45s are popular wet because they have (had) to be wet to be hearing safe. It was almost required for normal use.

9mm doesn't need to be wet to be safe, and in my opinion it's kind of a novelty. It's like owning a car with nitrous, it's cool, but it eventually becomes a hassle and isn't worth the extra effort. It's fun to see how fast (or in this case quiet) you can get, and some people really enjoy that aspect, but it's a tangent from normal use.

Personally, I have zero interest in wet 9mm. However, I would agree that John's testing could be a little more thorough than CAN - NUMBER - DONE. I realize there is a lot of work there, but I would prefer some details like fit and finish etc. He used to have all that but that was testing 3 cans at a time max.

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Post by este » Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:48 pm

toolfan91 wrote: Rsilvers- didnt you test the glock 19 w/ TiRANT at 122db on the meter?
I remember John posted something about the Tirant being low twenties as well. Different ammo? Glock 17?

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Post by silencertalk » Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:15 pm

Special-K ammo.

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Post by este » Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:16 pm

rsilvers wrote:Special-K ammo.
Ah, that explains that. I'm glad there is a shortage of K so I can get some numbers that would reflect the ammo I actually use.

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Post by Fireman1291 » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:50 pm

I'm pretty sold on the EVO9 being my next can then. And I shoot wet all the time, I want max suppression. I could care less about the mess.

I'm going to bring a TT threaded beretta and G26/threaded LW barrel to try out a EVO9 demo can on. :D
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Post by KIRMIL » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:56 pm

Sure glad I got the old Evo 9, any chance of getting an upgrade to the new model?

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Post by Kevin/AAC » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:38 pm

toolfan91 wrote:Yeah im not too happy that there werent wet numbers as well... With that being said, if Im only using glocks(17/19/34) as hosts, it looks like I should just get the Evo9 rather than the TiRANT. Rsilvers- didnt you test the glock 19 w/ TiRANT at 122db on the meter?
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Post by Kevin/AAC » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:39 pm

KIRMIL wrote:Sure glad I got the old Evo 9, any chance of getting an upgrade to the new model?
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Post by Smalldog » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:56 pm

Thanks Gemtech. :evil:

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Post by toolfan91 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:25 am

este wrote: 45s are popular wet because they have (had) to be wet to be hearing safe. It was almost required for normal use.

9mm doesn't need to be wet to be safe, and in my opinion it's kind of a novelty. It's like owning a car with nitrous, it's cool, but it eventually becomes a hassle and isn't worth the extra effort. It's fun to see how fast (or in this case quiet) you can get, and some people really enjoy that aspect, but it's a tangent from normal use.

Personally, I have zero interest in wet 9mm. However, I would agree that John's testing could be a little more thorough than CAN - NUMBER - DONE. I realize there is a lot of work there, but I would prefer some details like fit and finish etc. He used to have all that but that was testing 3 cans at a time max.
Very good points :) I have a decent bit of performance background between DSMs and mustangs, and the nitrous analogy really hits home. Nothing worse than pulling up next to a heads/cammed LS1 in a 98 cobra with a 125 wet shot and an empty bottle :lol: I dont currently have any suppressors, but can imagine running one wet all the time might be a bit of a hassle.

Now if only John wouldve tested with Alabama Ammo Special K as well as the normal 147gr stuff. I have seen maybe 2 boxes of the 147gr 9mm and I live in Houston :(
rsilvers wrote:Special-K ammo.
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Kevin/AAC wrote:Yes, we have.
That was dry, correct?

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Post by Kevin/AAC » Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:38 am

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Post by ArevaloSOCOM » Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:39 am

Thanks for the data Kevin / Robert.

I figured it was in the billboard ad for a reason!

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Post by toolfan91 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:30 am

Kevin/AAC wrote:Correct.
Thank you. Was the test Robert did with the Evo and Trident back in may done with special K as well? If so, I definitely need a TiRANT rather than an evo :)

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Post by silencertalk » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:38 am

That was a test Mike did. I just posted it.

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Post by bikefreek » Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:35 pm

does anyone find it odd that the trident did so bad?

i could be wrong but it seems the numbers are off from what last years reviews showed

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Post by horizonanr » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:34 pm

What accounts for the big difference in the Trident's performance between the two hosts? That struck me as odd.

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Post by bikefreek » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:37 pm

according to the tests the tridents FRP isnt even hearing safe lol
i call bullshit

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Post by sonanth » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:36 pm

bikefreek wrote:does anyone find it odd that the trident did so bad?

i could be wrong but it seems the numbers are off from what last years reviews showed
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Post by eseaton » Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:47 pm

Kevin/AAC wrote:
KIRMIL wrote:Sure glad I got the old Evo 9, any chance of getting an upgrade to the new model?
No, sorry.
Why not? Even for a small fee?

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Post by silencertalk » Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:21 am

They are not designed to be taken apart. They are glued shut and it is difficult to open them without damaging the finish.

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Post by eseaton » Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:38 am

I just had a "sealed" can opened and all internals replaced with stainless including the new endcaps. The forum member that did it said it was not any problem to perform the removal of the "sealed" endcaps when he did it. I had it refinished in Duracoat after the process. I could definately live with that for the update on the Evo-9.

Obviously, I want to stay on top of all upgrades possible on all my cans and would really like to update the Evo if you guys can see your way to do it.

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