Been running across these odd rumors lately about the size of Liberty and when the banking came up again it seems like someone is trying to make it sound like Liberty could go under. I thought at first it could be coincidental but after talking to Dave it seems this is deliberate. Concerns like appearance are another matter and have to be considered when buying a lifetime purchase.
They moved to a smaller font for their engraving awhile ago now but both my picures and the ones on Liberty’s site are older. The giant font was less than flattering. My TL is the older style while the Steel Kodiak and Essence are the newer. But since one is in the white and the other has the silver coating both are very difficult to photograph correctly. It just makes the engraving look sloppy. Though in the black it looks perfect. Certainly on par with anything else I’ve seen aside from maybe a model I had seen laser engraved. I’ll have to get a picture.
On side note Liberty is much larger than even I had realized. They again are in hiring mode and bringing more into the shop as well as sales. Liberty has existed now for 6 years and as a company has no debt. They own everything free and clear.
It’s a different can (Torch) but I think because the tube is larger it reflects the light differently and shows the engraving better. This engraving is exactly like my Steel version and Essence. Check the endcaps here again. Sure they could be welded if needed but the fact they can get in there easy is more important to me. Nobody cuts ends and blends them like Liberty does. You really have to see them in person I think to appreciate the quality. I know the Torch turned out to be far far more than I expected. If it exceeds my anal retentive expectations I think anyone would be happy.
Personally not a fan of the new front caps but after owning one I am starting to change my preference. The old style ends are an easy request.
With the smaller can I’ve been trying to get Dave to do that was my point..While very similiar they are going to function completely differntly. If you look at the picture I whited out to simplify the process to prod Dave with you can see what your left with. Then to get the sound reduction on a shorter can you have to bore tight. By doing this you completely eliminate the lack of blowback feature. There is so much that goes into that core you would be amazed. They are actually very time consuming to make and still some of it has to be done by hand. (again part of the reason I love them..I know I’m actually getting my money’s worth on these.) But going from a can bored from .280/270 down to a straight .250 and you just get a mess as far as that feature. The other hold up with that design is the risk then of baffle strikes..Won’t hurt the baffles but won’t shoot for crap. Limited to factory only threading then. (Not if the gun was threaded properly just can’t be off at all then) That’s the reason Liberty never did it.
Hey Este didn’t mean to suggest your opinion is of any less importance. Someone is playing dirty right now and I think you just by coincidence repeated that at an odd time. Everyone knows I’m a Liberty fanatic. When they signed one of those “Art of Silence” t-shirts that I asked them to make I didn’t even realize all the employees. (Asked that all the employees sign.)
Oh and that Surefire can. Not to pick..But where the hell is all the lead and buildup suppose to go? Love the design..Just don’t think anyone thought through it’s a rimfire can. Or whats going to be in it when you have to take it apart. I can already hear the complaints..LOL (I could buy another TL with what I spent with them on just two of their little flashlights and bulbs!)
Okay now check this out at 495..
You know it is the silver..The engraving still does't look good in the photo..Looks awesome in person! Better than Gemtech's