Huntertown Arms Kestrel
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Huntertown Arms Kestrel
Any thoughts? I am looking at the 5.45/5.56 to use on a Krink.
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Not sure if it was just the video, but that sounded loud on both host weapons? I did like the fact that just the first half had the serial number on it.
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Krink's wont suppress well regarless of how quiet the silencer is, neither does any AK platform. You would think people that make suppressors would know this...
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What a shock. Titsworth bashing another manufacturer.
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My Draco SBR sure sounds better suppressed than non suppressed, but it still sounds better than that Kestrel at least on video. I use a YHM Phantom.John Titsworth wrote:Krink's wont suppress well regarless of how quiet the silencer is, neither does any AK platform. You would think people that make suppressors would know this...
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i have spoken with one of the owners involved with these cans,he also owns 21st century firearms in Bluffton Indiana.i have been to there store many times also have checked these cans out.you can go to there web site and he sell,s them.they are really priced very good.i asked him why should i pay the price for a swr or aac,(which he sell,s also)when i can get his cans a lot cheaper (basically asking him the difference between cans)he said that there cans will hold up an do as good a job as any one else, so why am i paying a lot more.you need to check them out for your self, but they look very good.
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I am no expert and I am sure that some non-mainstream suppressors may be just as good as SWR or AAC, but not in all aspects. You have to look at materials, construction process, QC for tolerances and welds, tone, etc. It is possible, but not probable. Even amoung the mainstream companies there are differences (hence "budget cans"). I have what many consider a budget can. I am happy with its performance, but I know there are better out there. The can may be "as good as" in that respect.jackson wrote:...i asked him why should i pay the price for a swr or aac,(which he sell,s also)when i can get his cans a lot cheaper (basically asking him the difference between cans)he said that there cans will hold up (how well?)an do as good (proof? And what is his definition os AS GOOD? I'm guessing if it makes it quieter its AS GOOD)a job as any one else, so why am i paying a lot more.you need to check them out for your self, but they look very good.
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No inconel but he says he would replace warn baffles , I woner about high power cans being able to unscrew but it's a good price and nice ideas.
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Now I have personally seen these cans as I live in IN. And here is my honest opinion. I applaud a person for getting up and making a suppressor,and making a company work. Now as far as the "AS GOOD AS ANY ONE ELSE" I say that is a matter of who we are talking about. As far as a Tac 65 they have made a perfect working copy by sound NOT by design.{That would be wrong}. And the have a smaller .22 can that is cool but others by SWR and AAC I can not say they have hit the JUST AS GOOD PART yet. There .223 cans are quiet and functional but again not at the JUST AS GOOD stage as of today. But over all the price point on the cans are great and should be looked at when considering what you are getting for the money. Over all they should not be overlooked as a can manufacture goes but I would just stick to the facts not try to make something it's not.
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Sounds like he is bashing the host guns performance while suppressed to me.Flipz wrote:What a shock. Titsworth bashing another manufacturer.
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He is, but then he says this about the manufacturer "You would think people that make suppressors would know this...". Sounds like he's bashing the manufacturer to me. And with his track record of doing so. I have no dought he is.ghostdog662 wrote:Sounds like he is bashing the host guns performance while suppressed to me.Flipz wrote:What a shock. Titsworth bashing another manufacturer.
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We made a Krink hearing-safe with our Kestrel. We made an 10.5" AR machine gun hearing safe too. We also made a user-serviceable 5.56 can out of all stainless that weighs about the same as a Phantom, is shorter than an M4/2000, and quieter than a Halo that I guarantee will have a longer service life than any any welded suppressor. And in the even of baffle strikes or structural failures, we can replace components without having to slice the suppressor apart. I guess that since we don't know the rules and boundaries we are able to surpass them.John Titsworth wrote:Krink's wont suppress well regarless of how quiet the silencer is, neither does any AK platform. You would think people that make suppressors would know this...
As far as the JUST AS GOOD AS subthread, I don't know what as good as means. We produce a great suppressor that can be disassembled and cleaned at a great price. Just in testing our Kestrel I've personally become convinced that user-serviceable centerfire suppressors are going to be a requirement just as rimfire suppressors are.
Emilio wrote:No inconel but he says he would replace warn baffles , I woner about high power cans being able to unscrew but it's a good price and nice ideas.
There are multiple sealing surfaces. In all the testing we've done we haven't had a single can come apart during firing, even with sustained machine gun fire.
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Far-fetched, dubious statements like the above are the reason certain people got into independent silencer testing. Now that independent testing is in its twilight, these statements are re-appearing.semperfiusmc wrote:We made a Krink hearing-safe with our Kestrel. We made an 10.5" AR machine gun hearing safe too. We also made a user-serviceable 5.56 can out of all stainless that weighs about the same as a Phantom, is shorter than an M4/2000, and quieter than a Halo that I guarantee will have a longer service life than any any welded suppressor. And in the even of baffle strikes or structural failures, we can replace components without having to slice the suppressor apart. I guess that since we don't know the rules and boundaries we are able to surpass them.John Titsworth wrote:Krink's wont suppress well regarless of how quiet the silencer is, neither does any AK platform. You would think people that make suppressors would know this...
You did not make a Krink or AR safe to the ear. Maybe your can is shorter than an M4-2000, but it is a thread on with more volume. Is it quieter than a Halo? Even if you could demonstrate that you are testing properly, that isn't much of an achievement. Longer service life than ANY welded suppressor.....
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Indeed, those are exceedingly bold claims. Point of fact, if you made a 5.45x39 AK with short barrel (by "Krink" do you mean AKS74-U?) hearing safe you would be the first in the world to do so.
What dB at the ear were you testing? 1m to the side of the muzzle?
What grade of stainless? Any HT on the materials?
Surpass the rules and boundaries - generally smaller manufacturers will duck these questions. Be unique and different and actually answer.
What dB at the ear were you testing? 1m to the side of the muzzle?
What grade of stainless? Any HT on the materials?
Surpass the rules and boundaries - generally smaller manufacturers will duck these questions. Be unique and different and actually answer.
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I will say one more thing that is a point of interest on the Kestrel can's. I did see 2 at a local show that were .30 cal and .223 and the cool part was they were user serviceable and I know that is not as needed on a center fire can. But for of us that fire dirty subsonic powder this interests me allot. I will be getting one just for that reason. I can not say that these two cans were quite I did not get to hear them but the baffle design was interesting to say the least. I am sure we will see them in the future. The .30 cal was a little smaller than the Cyclone but not by much. And the .223 was smaller than the M42000. All SS as far as I could tell and built like a tank.
Just a bit of info I have no price info or availability it looked as if these were new and possibly proto type I wasn't sure.
Just a bit of info I have no price info or availability it looked as if these were new and possibly proto type I wasn't sure.
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This thread could be epic. Tagged for later enjoyment
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I am no expert and I am sure that some non-mainstream suppressors may be just as good as SWR or AAC, but not in all aspects. You have to look at materials, construction process, QC for tolerances and welds, tone, etc. It is possible, but not probable. Even amoung the mainstream companies there are differences (hence "budget cans"). I have what many consider a budget can. I am happy with its performance, but I know there are better out there. The can may be "as good as" in that respect.
You are right there are plenty of non-mainstream suppressor manufacturers that produce cans just as good as the big dogs.
Just because they don't do thousands of can sales doesn't mean that their QC is poor or construction methods are flawed either. As far as QC goes I have seen as good if not better QC practices on the smaller companies than the big dogs. I have seen alot of QC problems with the big dogs but the sheer volume that they produce makes them less notable compared to a smaller company making a much smaller number of cans. The larger the company the lower on the totem pole QC is.
There is no reason to think that because they don't have a huge staff or dozens of machines that they aren't producing a quality product.
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Any news on when the 7.62 version will be available?
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I kinda need one for my 5.56 krink!!
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That bears repeating.Bendersquint wrote:There is no reason to think that because they don't have a huge staff or dozens of machines that they aren't producing a quality product.
...but I still want to hear any justification on the claims of sound pressure levels and such from the manufacturer. This silencer might be the best thing since sliced bread, but we just don't have enough information other than some truly bold claims thus far.
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How much are they?
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MSRP on the 556 can is supposed to be $499. I don't think they've decided yet for the 7.62 cans.
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Sounds interesting but I will wait for a 24mm 7.62x39 can so I can use it on both.
Your AK-74 will turn into a rust bucket if you shoot corrosive ammo on a suppressed rifle unless you bathtub it when you are done. The can makes all the blast go into the nooks and crannys that are normally unaffected by the gasses. There was a thread a couple years ago on the other site with some really ugly pics.
Your AK-74 will turn into a rust bucket if you shoot corrosive ammo on a suppressed rifle unless you bathtub it when you are done. The can makes all the blast go into the nooks and crannys that are normally unaffected by the gasses. There was a thread a couple years ago on the other site with some really ugly pics.
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YOU AREN'T KIDDING!
I have NEVER seen that much crap inside an AK action before after only a few mags. I ended up having to take it entirely apart and clean every last bit.
I have NEVER seen that much crap inside an AK action before after only a few mags. I ended up having to take it entirely apart and clean every last bit.
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I see we have another one thats convinced that the method of cleaning a rifle after corrosive ammo hasn't advanced past the 1800's......robpiat wrote:Your AK-74 will turn into a rust bucket if you shoot corrosive ammo on a suppressed rifle unless you bathtub it when you are done.