Anyone seen any Spectre II data yet?

dan_h · Post by **dan_h** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:17 am

I already have a stainless sparrow (& am very pleased w/it) but would like to consider the Spectre II for my next can...i'm assuming the FRP would be much better than my sparrow but would like to see someone's data to verify. Has anyone seen any measurements?

thx
dh

John Titsworth · Post by **John Titsworth** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:30 am

I don't think they have transferred any to anyone yet so it's doubtful.

Bendersquint · Post by **Bendersquint** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:15 pm

dan_h wrote:I already have a stainless sparrow (& am very pleased w/it) but would like to consider the Spectre II for my next can...i'm assuming the FRP would be much better than my sparrow but would like to see someone's data to verify. Has anyone seen any measurements?

thx
dh

Why do you assume the FRP will be less? Its an odd assumption beyond the fact its a stack versus a monocore.

rockman96 · Post by **rockman96** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:45 am

Bendersquint wrote:
dan_h wrote:I already have a stainless sparrow (& am very pleased w/it) but would like to consider the Spectre II for my next can...i'm assuming the FRP would be much better than my sparrow but would like to see someone's data to verify. Has anyone seen any measurements?

thx
dh
Why do you assume the FRP will be less? Its an odd assumption beyond the fact its a stack versus a monocore.

Why do you assume it won't be? That's an odd assumption given the fact that it already has less FRP, and I doubt they would release an upgraded can that didn't perform at least as good. Or am I missing something?

dan_h · Post by **dan_h** » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:51 am

you 'nailed it' Rockman 96!

Yes, the FRP of the existing Spectre design is less and they claim the Spectre II is 'better'....

redtazdog · Post by **redtazdog** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:00 pm

Look what I found

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =272401878

cajun 22 · Post by **cajun 22** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:07 pm

Lucky Bastard! And I mean that in the nicest way.

I have an original Spectre and would like to hear what they sound like side by side. I would also like SWR to test an old Spectre that was updated with the new design to see how much of an improvement it would make.

Bendersquint · Post by **Bendersquint** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:27 pm

cajun 22 wrote:Lucky Bastard! And I mean that in the nicest way. I have an original Spectre and would like to hear what they sound like side by side. I would also like SWR to test an old Spectre that was updated with the new design to see how much of an improvement it would make.

There would be no sense in that since they said its the same tube just new internals and caps. So Spectre2 performance would be what an upgraded core in a Spectre1 would give you.

redtazdog · Post by **redtazdog** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:04 pm

cajun 22 wrote:Lucky Bastard! And I mean that in the nicest way. I have an original Spectre and would like to hear what they sound like side by side. I would also like SWR to test an old Spectre that was updated with the new design to see how much of an improvement it would make.

The decent price I got it for was due to the fact that the seller had the auction end at a time when most at at work,
if you want more for your product on a auction always have it end when many people are at home to
bid.

strobro32 · Post by **strobro32** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:26 pm

Mine is on the way too. I'm still waiting for Bender to quote me a price for a new knurled mount.

Bendersquint · Post by **Bendersquint** » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:37 pm

strobro32 wrote:Mine is on the way too. I'm still waiting for Bender to quote me a price for a new knurled mount.

Give me a call on Monday.

cajun 22 · Post by **cajun 22** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:44 pm

There would be no sense in that since they said its the same tube just new internals and caps. So Spectre2 performance would be what an upgraded core in a Spectre1 would give you.[/quote]

Maybe you know more than me on this issue. A friend went to SHOT and was told by the SWR rep there that they were going to offer an upgrade on the original Spectre to this new baffle design. I did not know it was the same tube with new parts. I only asked to see what info was there to justify them offering this service. It would have to be a dramatic improvement to make it better IMO and worth the cost. I have a Spectre and shot it beside the Sparrow, Element, and still think it's the quietest can. And it has no FRP.

Bendersquint · Post by **Bendersquint** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:18 pm

cajun 22 wrote:There would be no sense in that since they said its the same tube just new internals and caps. So Spectre2 performance would be what an upgraded core in a Spectre1 would give you.

Maybe you know more than me on this issue. A friend went to SHOT and was told by the SWR rep there that they were going to offer an upgrade on the original Spectre to this new baffle design. I did not know it was the same tube with new parts. I only asked to see what info was there to justify them offering this service. It would have to be a dramatic improvement to make it better IMO and worth the cost. I have a Spectre and shot it beside the Sparrow, Element, and still think it's the quietest can. And it has no FRP.[/quote]

I think the biggest improvement/benefit will be that it will be easier to take apart and clean.

If you aren't a high volume shooter then you might not see that benefit.

m3s90 · Post by **m3s90** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:45 am

I have an original Specter and a Specter 2 on order. Can't have to many great 22 cans

strobro32 · Post by **strobro32** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:57 am

The only reason I'm getting the Spectre II is because my Spectre I was stolen. The Spectre was the best all around can I owned. Its only drawback was that it time consuming to take apart. My Sparrow was awesome too but it did have FRP. That was not an issue when using int on a .22LR SMG. When using a can on a semi auto, the Spectre was better. If I still had the Spectre I would probably not upgrade.

If it means anything I now have the unique chance to start the NFA thing all over again after losing my entire collection. I will not be replacing 90% of what I had but I do want a .22 can. It appears that SWR has improved the only drawback I had with the old Spectre. The new Spectre II is the one I'll be getting.

I just wish that new mount wasn't so fugly.

cajun 22 · Post by **cajun 22** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:41 am

Bendersquint
Thanks for your observations. I was thinking that the new internals were somehow going to make it quieter. Now that would be impressive because of how quiet it already is. I looked at the baffle design again and can see now that the crud has no way to contact the tube. A concept other manufacturers have already put to market and made big waves with. My hat is off to SWR for making improvements to benefit the shooter. That said, I don't own any full auto so cleaning is not a problem. After a few bricks I just dip it whole for a day or two and it comes right apart.

Good luck to all the ones waiting on the new ones.

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