Long time lurker first time poster.
I have assembled a DPMS LR308 with a custom barrel and gas block
that allows me fire super, super suppressed, and subsonic all cycle.
The barrel is a 16" PAC-NOR 7 twist super match, chambered in m118lr
chamber, carbine length gas system gas port drilled to .120"
After a couple of gas block changes I settled on the MICRO MOA 3
position plate with ports drilled at .043", .0625", .120".
I feel this could be done with success on a mid length gas system 10 twist.
The port in the gas block plate would have to be increased.
I like to use IMR SR4759 and AA5744 with a magnum primer.
This rifle is submoa in subsonic and supersonic.
The lightest bullet to cycle subsonic in this configuration, is 175smk
and the heaviest being 260gr outlaw state bullets.
If this were a 10 twist a 200 gr smk would probably be the limit or a
220gr rn.
Cycling subsonic in custom LR308
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Re: Cycling subsonic in custom LR308
Load data?
Re: Cycling subsonic in custom LR308
250gr outlaw 14gr imr sr4759
Fed LR MAG primer 2.770 COAL
Rem case and lee factory crimp
175gr smk 11.5gr imr sr 4759
Fed LR MAG primer 2.810 COAL
Rem case and lee factory crimp
Both loads, subsonic and cycle
Last round hold open
The 250gr outlaw shoots 1/2 to 3/4 MOA
Fed LR MAG primer 2.770 COAL
Rem case and lee factory crimp
175gr smk 11.5gr imr sr 4759
Fed LR MAG primer 2.810 COAL
Rem case and lee factory crimp
Both loads, subsonic and cycle
Last round hold open
The 250gr outlaw shoots 1/2 to 3/4 MOA
Re: Cycling subsonic in custom LR308
This rifle started life as a DPMS 308 Oracle.
The only operational parts that were changed
not including furniture and trigger, are the barrel
and gas block. Trigger is a 3lb JP.
The only operational parts that were changed
not including furniture and trigger, are the barrel
and gas block. Trigger is a 3lb JP.
Re: Cycling subsonic in custom LR308
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Re: Cycling subsonic in custom LR308
Just tried 150gr Seirra fmj 12gr imr sr4759
Fed LR mag primer, 2.685 COAL with lee factory crimp
This load is also sub sonic last round hold open
I need to shoot paper, to see how well this load groups.
Fed LR mag primer, 2.685 COAL with lee factory crimp
This load is also sub sonic last round hold open
I need to shoot paper, to see how well this load groups.
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Re: Cycling subsonic in custom LR308
Think that load would work on a 1-10 twist with the same reamed gas port? I have a spare barrel in the rack and a ton of 147gr pills.Low-Light wrote:Just tried 150gr Seirra fmj 12gr imr sr4759
Fed LR mag primer, 2.685 COAL with lee factory crimp
This load is also sub sonic last round hold open
I need to shoot paper, to see how well this load groups.
Re: Cycling subsonic in custom LR308
Yes as long as your barrel stabilizes. I started with a DPMS with NATO chamber
and it would not stabilize anything I put through it. I have seen this in 2 different
NATO chambered DPMS barrels. Recovered bullets showed rifling heavier on one
side. Chambers may have been cut wrong. These same barrels shot
supersonic ok though.
Just tried 145gr orange tip tracer
12 gr of imr sr 4759 coal 2.780"
Lee factory crimp
Subsonic, locks the bolt carrier open and lights the tracer.
No accuracy test yet.
and it would not stabilize anything I put through it. I have seen this in 2 different
NATO chambered DPMS barrels. Recovered bullets showed rifling heavier on one
side. Chambers may have been cut wrong. These same barrels shot
supersonic ok though.
Just tried 145gr orange tip tracer
12 gr of imr sr 4759 coal 2.780"
Lee factory crimp
Subsonic, locks the bolt carrier open and lights the tracer.
No accuracy test yet.
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Re: Cycling subsonic in custom LR308
Now I just need to get me some SR4759 powder, can't find any anywhere.Low-Light wrote:Yes as long as your barrel stabilizes. I started with a DPMS with NATO chamber
and it would not stabilize anything I put through it. I have seen this in 2 different
NATO chambered DPMS barrels. Recovered bullets showed rifling heavier on one
side. Chambers may have been cut wrong. These same barrels shot
supersonic ok though.
Just tried 145gr orange tip tracer
12 gr of imr sr 4759 coal 2.780"
Lee factory crimp
Subsonic, locks the bolt carrier open and lights the tracer.
No accuracy test yet.
Re: Cycling subsonic in custom LR308
Look for aa5744 also, or imr 4227.
Unfortunately these powders are popular
in the 300blackout.
Unfortunately these powders are popular
in the 300blackout.
Re: Cycling subsonic in custom LR308
If you are interested I can make you reduced capacity cases
contact Outlaw State Bullets LLC. We haven't put them
on the market as of yet. This would allow you to
use other powders.
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contact Outlaw State Bullets LLC. We haven't put them
on the market as of yet. This would allow you to
use other powders.
[email protected]
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I can turn my own cases, just was hoping that something like RL15 would work or some other slow burning powders.Low-Light wrote:If you are interested I can make you reduced capacity cases
contact Outlaw State Bullets LLC. We haven't put them
on the market as of yet. This would allow you to
use other powders.
[email protected]
Re: Cycling subsonic in custom LR308
We don't turn cases we use already existing cases.
I don't think R15 is the way to go I probably would stick
to 748 or faster. Reloader 7, imr 1498, are good also.
I don't think R15 is the way to go I probably would stick
to 748 or faster. Reloader 7, imr 1498, are good also.
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I have some Reloder7 and I think some IMR4198 too.Low-Light wrote:We don't turn cases we use already existing cases.
I don't think R15 is the way to go I probably would stick
to 748 or faster. Reloader 7, imr 1498, are good also.
Can you pm me some load data to give it a try, going to ream the gas port tonight.
Re: Cycling subsonic in custom LR308
I will play with imr 4198 tomorrow. I haven't tried it yet but I
think it will work in this application.
think it will work in this application.
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Awesome, I have like 12 lbs of IMR4198 and a few thousand 147gr M80 pills to load up!Low-Light wrote:I will play with imr 4198 tomorrow. I haven't tried it yet but I
think it will work in this application.
Re: Cycling subsonic in custom LR308
150gr fmj, 13.5gr imr 4198, fed LR mag primer, rem brass,
COAL 2.685" lee factory crimp
Sub and last round hold open.
COAL 2.685" lee factory crimp
Sub and last round hold open.
Re: Cycling subsonic in custom LR308
I load Outlaw Bullets on the rifling for the best accuracy.