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Congress considering ANTIFA unmasking law, should it?
OK for Federal law/crime 17%  17%  [ 1 ]
No, ANTIFA causes local disruptions, States should pass law 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
No unmasking law anywhere 67%  67%  [ 4 ]
useless poll, I'm going to buy a gun 17%  17%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:49 pm 
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https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/11/left-wing-antifa-terrorists-freaking-out-over-proposed-unmasking-law/

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The Unmasking Antifa Act of 2018 can mean additional fines and prison terms of up to 15 years. The Hill reports the “bill was introduced by Republican Rep. Dan Donovan (N.Y.) and is co-sponsored by GOP Reps. Pete King (R-NY), Paul Gosar (R-AZ) and Ted Budd (R-NC).”

Ironically, this proposed law is similar to laws passed decades ago in states like Georgia and Alabama to stop another terrorist group formed by far-left Democrats, the Ku Klux Klan. According to the far-left New York Times, Ohio and West Virginia already have similar laws on the books.

Unless it is Halloween, Mardi Gras, or some other kind of celebration, there is no legitimate reason to disguise who you are in public, unless you intend to do something illegal and do not wish to be identified.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:18 am 
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Find the part in the Constitution that authorizes congress to dictate how we may dress.

You either believe in freedom or you don't. You either hate corrupt government and dictatorships, or you don't.

If they are so eager to dictate dress and behavior, they can start with their own LEAs.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:30 am 
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I just think they should classify them as the terrorist organization they are and be done with it.

Dictating what their uniform looks like changes very little.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:16 am 
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John A. wrote:
I just think they should classify them as the terrorist organization they are and be done with it.

Dictating what their uniform looks like changes very little.

This.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:53 am 
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Unless it is Halloween, Mardi Gras, or some other kind of celebration, there is no legitimate reason to disguise who you are in public, unless you intend to do something illegal and do not wish to be identified.

Oh really?

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what a sad policy on privacy. All antifa has gotta do is be a self proclaimed muslim, (or they can make up their own religion), and then they have the constitutional right to wear whatever headwear they want. This law is literally worthless and is an erosion of personal rights.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:55 pm 
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That picture of the goon squad is probably not what you want to display to bolster your argument.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:46 am 
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Context of how a law is written is crucial.

During a riot say ... like porn, you know it when you see it ...
masked thugs trying to break windows, throw gasoline bombs, attack
bystanders and police, etc., can be immediately arrested,
unmasked, and their photos posted. No Fly List them.

Our LEOs, including our beloved ATF :) , are subjected daily to overwhelming threats while
protecting us. Anyone hurling a missile at them must not be allowed anonymity behind
a mask. Especially the over indulged and over privileged student protesters and
radical professors.

Doesn't anyone read and see the terrible parallel to 1930's Europe?

For the 'Utes' ( My Cousin Vinny ) NAZI <==> National SOCIALIST Party.

And now the DemoNrats are proudly touting that their are the Democratic SOCIALISTs.
Can they be called the DITZIES! :)

WTF!

My WW2 kin who scarified themselves to defeat EVIL are looking down from heaven and
wondering who in this generation will defeat present day evil
inspired by Clintonian-Barack-Sanders menace.

First Amendment, protected by the Second Amendment, sure makes
venting one's spleen easy.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:58 pm 
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Anyone hurling a missile at them must not be allowed anonymity behind
a mask.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:30 am 
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What REALLY astonishes me is how ignorant (or just plain stupid) some people are about the definition of, and use of the word "Socialism"

How can someone calling himself (or herself :wink: ) "Historian" think that what people now a days call "Socialism" has ANYTHING to do with how the Nazis used the word in naming the "NSDAP" (National Socialistiches Deutches Arbeiter Partei)

I'm not personally "Socialist" at all, by any definition, new or old, and in my country the "Social Democrats" were one of the driving parties in passing a law on masking oneself in public, this was done mainly to prevent the use of clothing that completely covers Muslim womens faces and bodies, which is seen as a sexist oppression of women in our culture

That is also works well for "unmasking" violent demonstrators and other criminals ... I'm sure that thought NEVER entered the people behind the legislation (Sarcasm may be in use here :wink: )

I my humble opinion so much of our modern world functions on the base of being able to identify yourself by showing your face (Simple things like a "monthly bus ticket card" rely on a photo ID) that ancient religious customs, designed in a bedouin tent in the desert 2000 years ago should really not be "protected by freedom of religion" - A society that wants to allow "religious freedom" needs to be COMPLETELY Secular - laws governing such a society can NOT be based in any religion or it will fail as a "Free society".


As to the "masking" of LE personell, that is very much a path down which a society should NOT move -- It poses all kinds of potential abuse and accountability problems .. I can to some extent accept that "SWAT teams" and other specialized units use partially covering protective headgear, but each indiviual LE officer should be uniquely identifiable by subsequent investigations of an engagement, something that can be done by using numbering patches NOT permantly assigned to an individual, but to the individual LE officer for each specific event.
This way the identity of the individual LE officer is known without the general public being able to target them as private citizens,
(I'm well aware that that system could be circumvented by internal corruption within LE departments, but that goes for any government organization, and is part of the handling and fight against such corruption- not a "masking issue")

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