ATF worked in reverse on the M855 ban

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ATF worked in reverse on the M855 ban

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According to this report, the ATF banned M855 then proposed the ban.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli ... n-n1966761
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I think that it was a trial balloon. Floated up to see how intense the outcry would be.
Sadly, I expect the ban to stick as the only ones in congress that can do anything about it are too busy dropping to their knees in subservience to the minority.
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Since M855 bullet does not even come close to the federal definition of armor piercing, how can any regulatory agency claim that they are AP?

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bakerjw wrote:I think that it was a trial balloon. Floated up to see how intense the outcry would be.

Or a reverse stimulus package.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Well, that's good news for the moment...
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I never would have wagered that it would happen. I think that they didn't expect as much push back as they received.
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ranb wrote:Since M855 bullet does not even come close to the federal definition of armor piercing, how can any regulatory agency claim that they are AP?

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This is the point everyone should be making. It should not be exempted for "sporting purposes" because it should not be defined as AP.
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I doubt they "gave up". They'll just back off for the time being. They'll just try again later.
But I agree it SHOULD be a non-issue. M855 is about as much an AP round as just about any centerfire rifle round.
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I can't speak to Fed Law. But TX has a law banning the USE of AP rds in pistols.
Centerfire AP rds are totally legal, but once loaded into a "pistol" they b/c a Class B Misdemeanor. Though that can be aggravated into a felony under certain circumstances.

In Europe they restricted the sale of propellant rather then bullets. Since powder has a limitted shelf life, it's harder to hoard for future use.

IIRC Clinton tried to regulate the sale of bulk powders and included tagents to trace the lot #s.
But w so many sellers it's easy to circumvent and tagents caused safety and technical problems. Unstable reaction rates and combusted tagents weren't useful. Uncombustible tagents were also problematic.

I certainly hope that doesn't happen here. But I think that modern powders last for 100yrs under tight humidity and temp control. If vacuum sealed maybe even longer?
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