Checklist for can purchase using trust....what forms/where?

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Checklist for can purchase using trust....what forms/where?

Post by eseaton » Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:20 pm

Will someone with experience please list exactly what I need to complete my Form 4 trust transfer?

I am ordering and having sent to my dealer, a can. I know I can complete my Form 4 (going trust route) in duplicate and insert serial number when it arrives at my dealer. I also need the certificate of citizenship, right, in duplicate. Check to BATF for $200 (what address does it go to?) and then package all up and send where?

Did I miss any steps? I know to use double sided form 4's
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Post by ArevaloSOCOM » Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:40 pm

Form 4 x 2
Copy of Trust,including Schedule A
Check for 200.



This has worked for all my latest transfers.
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Re: Checklist for can purchase using trust....what forms/whe

Post by eseaton » Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:41 am

Anyone else or am I on the right track for what BATF currently requires?

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Post by Diomed » Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:25 am

eseaton wrote:Anyone else or am I on the right track for what BATF currently requires?

Thanks

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You are, in addition to what Arevalo suggests, throw in the 5330.20 as well. They say you don't need it, but some examiners want it anyway.

It's a Form 4, so it goes to Atlanta. (If that's not on your forms, you need new forms.)

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Post by Johnthedford » Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:37 pm

Make sure you have your schedule A enclosed listing your items. List not only what is already owned by the trust but also the item you are purchasing. We just had a call from ATF because one of our buyers had failed to include the schedule A. We had them fax it to the fed and they approved it the same day.

As for the address..it is on the front of the F4. Atlanta GA post office box.

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Post by FA Gunner » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:11 am

This is what I have used for two Form 4s with a Trust, one just came back approved 2 weeks ago.

2 x Form 4s
Copy of Trust to include Schedule A
5330.20
MO for $200

Mailed to the Atlanta address.

This last one took about 2 1/2 months.

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Post by eseaton » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:35 am

Thanks for the info. Looks like I have everything I need.
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Re: Checklist for can purchase using trust....what forms/whe

Post by lostwasthechild » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:03 pm

Is there any hardened rule about this Schedule A situation? I've just started the trust route and this is what my dealer is saying is mandatory:

F4 X 2
Copy of everything that has to do with the trust and schedule A WITHOUT the item added
Cert. of Compliance X 2 with the RLT in the first line
$200

I should refrase, because nothing seems to be a hardened rule, but are people still getting their stuff approved with out the item listed in the Schedule A.

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Post by Abiqua » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:17 pm

The trust won't hold the new item until the transfer is approved. It should be added to the Sched A after you get the stamp. This is how I do mine and have not had any issues, but others do it the other way and also apparently don't have issues either.

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Post by Diomed » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:47 am

lostwasthechild wrote:I should refrase, because nothing seems to be a hardened rule, but are people still getting their stuff approved with out the item listed in the Schedule A.
I'm still getting stuff approved without an asset schedule.

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Post by JustaPhule » Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:04 pm

LOL - That is due to the fact that the ATF can recite your trust from memory. Not many have a stamp collection like yours, we just want to.
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