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Schumer calls for federal probe of 'Stand Your Ground' laws

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:25 am
by Alael
Schumer calls for federal probe of 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Florida shooting

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03 ... z1qCJU12vA

Related article: Churches also attacking "stand your ground" laws.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/25/ch ... lain-teen/


I believe that all this stir is a political manipulation tactic for the presidential vote.. since the "stay your ground" law doesn't cover T. Martin's death case:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/03/ ... law-wrote/

Who stand for this law:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03 ... ur-ground/

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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:04 am
by jlwilliams
Alael wrote: I believe that all this stir is a political manipulation tactic for the presidential vote...

Yep. Sad fact is that some of these scumbags are glad to have this kid die during an election year. If they get elected then this kid's blood and the man's guilt or innocence are just fingers stepped on in their climb up the ladder.

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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:49 pm
by silencertalk
The news has been showing his photo as a 12 year old rather than as a 17 year old.

Fact - the police have said that the shooter's story was consistant with the evidence. Fact - the evidence shows that TM attacked him by punching him in the face and smashing his head on the ground. Shooting appears justified based on the evidence.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68282084@N ... /lightbox/

I can tell you right now, no charges will be filed against the shooter - because the police know he was justified and they can't bend the law that much even under public pressure.

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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:31 pm
by 66427vette
silencertalk wrote:The news has been showing his photo as a 12 year old rather than as a 17 year old.

Fact - the police have said that the shooter's story was consistant with the evidence. Fact - the evidence shows that TM attacked him by punching him in the face and smashing his head on the ground. Shooting appears justified based on the evidence.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68282084@N ... /lightbox/

I can tell you right now, no charges will be filed against the shooter - because the police know he was justified and they can't bend the law that much even under public pressure.
Someone gets it . I just wonder when the idiots are going to riot.

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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:14 am
by bakerjw
Actually I think that they should arrest him for first degree murder. That'd sure cool the heels of the NBPP and the other civil rights zealots. But then again, after an all but guaranteed acquittal, they'd be out in force rioting in the streets against the injustice of it all.

Meh. Just can't win with some people.

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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:29 am
by silencertalk
If he is arrested he will have to incur legal fees.

I am just amazed that we now know that the self-defense was most certainly legit, and the protests are still going on. I sort of expect them to say "Oh, why didn't you tell me that before?" And then just admit they were incorrect and go home.

If I were Zimmerman I would be wearing my 300 BLK around the house and some armor. I would also move to an area with more sympathetic demographics.

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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:27 am
by silencertalk
This is interesting. MA is considering a "Stand your Ground" law, and the the three polls I saw support it by a wide margin:

http://milford-ma.patch.com/articles/po ... w-630b9fee

Seems like the protests in Florida are being fueled by the media and not the way typical people think.

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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:54 am
by yellowfin
How about we probe Schumer?

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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:59 am
by Bone16
yellowfin wrote:How about we probe Schumer?
Nah, he'd like it too much, especially if they could get Barney Frank to do it.

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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:35 pm
by silencertalk
I can see the Stand Your Ground law not applying in this case, because he pursued the kid.

But normal self-defense laws kick in, and if his story is true (and it seems like the evidence supports that it is), then the shooting was lawful.

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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:22 am
by Greg Kulbick
Even if he had persued the kid, that's not illegal. If his account of the situation is accurate, Zimmerman lost site of Martin and was then approached from behind Martin. That would make Martin the persuer at that point. Regardless of who initiated contact, AOJ needs to be met to satisfy a lawful self defense shooting. If the accounts of that nite are as they are in the police report, Martin had the abilty to cause great bodily harm or death, the opportunity to cause great bodily harm or death, and any reasonable person would be able to ascertain that Zimmerman having a man on top of him beating his head into the sidewalk repeatedly was in jeopardy of great bodily harm or death.

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:11 am
by silencertalk
The protestors seem completely incorrect, and yet they still protest.

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:48 am
by bakerjw
They're minorities. They don't have to be correct as they can play the race card.

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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:40 am
by lilfuzzybuny
thinking about it.....they're more than likely going to change the wording in the law or get rid of it to make sure a race war/riot doesnt happen. if zimmerman is found not guilty. or they might change it before the trial is over so that the wording would make him guilty anyway to please the idiots. i dont know the local governments history so i cant say for sure but the thought did occur to me.

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:32 pm
by silencertalk

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Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:59 am
by Surly
Scummer is a spineless worm that couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper sack, let alone stand his ground.