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Ok, I'll start.

Because sometimes you're jetskiing with some friends and post up on an island out in the bay, and then some epically drunk redneck beaches his boat on said island, and after several minutes walks over to you, comments on how awesome your friend's motherfucking skis are, asks if you can fish off one of those motherfuckers, asks for a ride on that motherfucker, and then eventually leaves, but not before floating past in the channel, pointing to the most horrifically rode-hard-and-put-up-wet walking saddlebag you've ever gazed upon, screaming "this is my hot girlfriend", cracking upon a Michelob Ultra, pouring it on said saddlebag's chest while exclaiming, "yeah, you like that!" and then motoring off. At that time, I drew comfort from the fact that I had a .45 in the pelican case I was holding.

So then, why do you carry?
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What the hell?! That was ME you were talking about!

So then I guess I carry because you never know when some beach yuppy is going to get jealous of your nicely-broken-in ol' lady and pull a .45 out of his Pelican case (because he doesn't know that toting around said container is considerably more conspicuous than IWBC.)
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If IWBC worked in boardshorts in the water I'd've done it. Failing that, I let it float around in the pelican case with my wallet and keys and what-have-yous.

Nicely-broken-in is a good way to put it ... lol
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I carry for the inflated sense of self esteem that alcohol alone just doesn't offer.

Failing that...

My wife was just recently in the hospital for a wedge resection of her right upper lung lobe due to a cavity that had formed. They removed a necrotizing granuloma and other items that are currently a mystery sent off to the pathology folks. While in the ICU for the first night of recovery a youth was brought in with multiple gunshot wounds, who subsequently died of his wounds. Outside the ICU his entire extended family filled the hallway and waiting areas (20-30 people) all crying and very angry. Several of the younger male relatives were angrily plotting what they were going to do to the person to gunned down this person.

I was worried about what might happen if they decided to enact their revenge on the doctors and staff that couldn't save the dude. I was glad I was armed. The "security" guard at the main entrance even checked my laptop bag and made my "sign in" (which amounted to writing a name on a sticker, what room I was going to and the date and time, no copies were made, no IDs checked) I certainly felt safer.

ETA: There was also another dude that was running around angry and yelling at the nurses and one of the nurse stations. Apparently someone did something wrong. The security guards were running around trying to find him. He was off running around and security couldn't find him.

Before 7PM, they don't care who comes and goes. After 7, they make you "sign in" and they "check your bag". The whole checking bags is laughable. What are they looking for exactly? There are no posted rules about anything other than "no smoking" so what exactly are they trying to prevent? Why just after 6 or 7pm? Someone certainly wouldn't come in a little earlier than that now would they?

The illusion of security in these types of places just fascinates me. I had at least one gun and two knives with me most of the time and the only thing they ever glanced in was the large part of my bag.
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You said it Trooper. :-)

A yuppy multi millionaire acquaintance of mine who owns a large business shared/confessed his biggest problem in life. That old woman who dumps beer on her old drooping tits does more for him than a young hard belly "10" will ever do.

"That skankily high mileage biker chick who fucked my brains out in the gas station bathroom when I was 20, just because she felt sorry for me, and wanted to show me what real sex was, made me cry for more, gave me crabs, and kicked me to the curb when I followed her around like a puppy dog, still fucks me up. I have jerked off thinking about her my whole life."

He is married to a beautiful french woman 1/2 his age who is into ballet, and is model beautiful, a true "10". A Smith college graduate etc. .. But his dick still gets hard when he thinks about the older worn out biker chick who knew all the tricks with years of experience 2x his age and was not even that good looking. Had a good body but mostly she knew how to use it.

I don't think he will ever be right in the head. He is now really only turned on my slutty bad girl woman, the ones you would never be seen in public with. He is married to the one you can take home to your parents, and like to be see with in public with.

But she will never really turn him on even though she is a "10" by most peoples standards. I know every times he makes love to his wife he wishes he was getting fucked by that 40+ year old biker chick who pity fucked him when he was barely 20.

Don't underestimate a cougar. Practice practice. practice. And a willingness to do things a 18 year old has not even heard of yet, and if she did, would say "Euuuuuu"


Oh... and I carry a gun to keep the HHO + crab meat sales men away. :wink:
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I carry because I can

It also doesn't hurt that it gives my GF a clitoral boner when she sees me carrying
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aren't all the cool kids doing it? Oh... I forgot... the cool kids just take the class and show off the ID. Hardly ever see them armed.
There is an 11 to 17 minute response time to a 911 call. You can either choose to put effective rounds on target, neutralizing the threat, or try to find a telephone. The person who killed you while you were dialing 911 will have enough time to cook a frozen pizza before the "Badged Historians" show up to draw the chalk line.
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Carrying a cop with me everywhere gave me back pains.
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Well I don't know about y'all, but I'm compensating for my penis.
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Diomed wrote:Well I don't know about y'all, but I'm compensating for my penis.
He's talking about CCW, not open carry.
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Works for both.

Open carry and I'm telling the world.

Concealed and it's my little secret.
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I carry so I can act like a complete asshole and when somebody threatens to kick my ass I just flash my GAT and tell him he as to respect me.


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I carry for those times an ex-con wants to throw down on me.


Really though,Im safer at work(prison compound) than I am on the streets.....
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I carry just in case some asshole comes up to me and tries to sell me HHO for my vehicle. :P

Oh and I feel the need to meet the first rule in a gun fight.
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because you never know when zombies might attack, gotta be prepared at all times.
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Carrying to attempt to make my penis jealous.....doesn't work :lol:
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Diomed wrote:Well I don't know about y'all, but I'm compensating for my penis.
This, except that I'd like to carry a .32 ACP - so I'm compensating for something, but what does it mean? That my penis is 98.5% that of a 'normal' penis?
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I carry because I have been held up twice at gun point. I grew up in North Las Vegas and I have seen a lot of street violence, Rodey King riots and all. I was getting in my car in the parking garage after work a couple of weeks ago and some asshole apprentice that I chewed out tried to rush me from behind, it always surprises me how docile people become when they see you tuck a 45 into your belt. I carry because I'm going home alive and well, attack me and mine at your own risk.
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RX7-2nr wrote:because you never know when zombies might attack, gotta be prepared at all times.
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Diomed wrote:Well I don't know about y'all, but I'm compensating for my penis.
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Because zombies have larger penises.
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got this in an email the other day, thought it might be good to post it here.

On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs - Dave Grossman
By LTC (RET) Dave Grossman, author of "On Killing."
Honor never grows old, and honor rejoices the heart of age. It does so because honor is, finally, about defending those noble and worthy things that deserve defending, even if it comes at a high cost. In our time, that may mean social disapproval, public scorn, hardship, persecution, or as always,even death itself. The question remains: What is worth defending? What is worth dying for? What is worth living for? - William J. Bennett - in a lecture to the United States Naval Academy November 24, 1997

One Vietnam veteran, an old retired colonel, once said this to me:

"Most of the people in our society are sheep. They are kind, gentle, productive creatures who can only hurt one another by accident." This is true. Remember, the murder rate is six per 100,000 per year, and the aggravated assault rate is four per 1,000 per year. What this means is that the vast majority of Americans are not inclined to hurt one another. Some estimates say that two million Americans are victims of violent crimes every year, a tragic, staggering number, perhaps an all-time record rate of violent crime. But there are almost 300 million Americans, which means that the odds of being a victim of violent crime is considerably less than one in a hundred on any given year. Furthermore, since many violent crimes are committed by repeat offenders, the actual number of violent citizens is considerably less than two million.

Thus there is a paradox, and we must grasp both ends of the situation: We may well be in the most violent times in history, but violence is still remarkably rare. This is because most citizens are kind, decent people who are not capable of hurting each other, except by accident or under extreme provocation. They are sheep.

I mean nothing negative by calling them sheep. To me it is like the pretty, blue robin's egg. Inside it is soft and gooey but someday it will grow into something wonderful. But the egg cannot survive without its hard blue shell. Police officers, soldiers, and other warriors are like that shell, and someday the civilization they protect will grow into something wonderful.? For now, though, they need warriors to protect them from the predators.

"Then there are the wolves," the old war veteran said, "and the wolves feed on the sheep without mercy." Do you believe there are wolves out there who will feed on the flock without mercy? You better believe it. There are evil men in this world and they are capable of evil deeds. The moment you forget that or pretend it is not so, you become a sheep. There is no safety in denial.

"Then there are sheepdogs," he went on, "and I'm a sheepdog. I live to protect the flock and confront the wolf."

If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen, a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath, a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? What do you have then? A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed

Let me expand on this old soldier's excellent model of the sheep, wolves, and sheepdogs. We know that the sheep live in denial, that is what makes them sheep. They do not want to believe that there is evil in the world. They can accept the fact that fires can happen, which is why they want fire extinguishers, fire sprinklers, fire alarms and fire exits throughout their kids' schools.

But many of them are outraged at the idea of putting an armed police officer in their kid's school. Our children are thousands of times more likely to be killed or seriously injured by school violence than fire, but the sheep's only response to the possibility of violence is denial. The idea of someone coming to kill or harm their child is just too hard, and so they chose the path of denial.

The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, can not and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheep dog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.

Still, the sheepdog disturbs the sheep. He is a constant reminder that there are wolves in the land. They would prefer that he didn't tell them where to go, or give them traffic tickets, or stand at the ready in our airports in camouflage fatigues holding an M-16. The sheep would much rather have the sheepdog cash in his fangs, spray paint himself white, and go, "Baa."

Until the wolf shows up. Then the entire flock tries desperately to hide behind one lonely sheepdog.
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The students, the victims, at Columbine High School were big, tough high school students, and under ordinary circumstances they would not have had the time of day for a police officer. They were not bad kids; they just had nothing to say to a cop. When the school was under attack, however, and SWAT teams were clearing the rooms and hallways, the officers had to physically peel those clinging, sobbing kids off of them. This is how the little lambs feel about their sheepdog when the wolf is at the door.

Look at what happened after September 11, 2001 when the wolf pounded hard on the door. Remember how America, more than ever before, felt differently about their law enforcement officers and military personnel? Remember how many times you heard the word hero?

Understand that there is nothing morally superior about being a sheepdog; it is just what you choose to be. Also understand that a sheepdog is a funny critter: He is always sniffing around out on the perimeter, checking the breeze, barking at things that go bump in the night, and yearning for a righteous battle. That is, the young sheepdogs yearn for a righteous battle. The old sheepdogs are a little older and wiser, but they move to the sound of the guns when needed right along with the young ones.

Here is how the sheep and the sheepdog think differently. The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day. After the attacks on September 11, 2001, most of the sheep, that is, most citizens in America said, "Thank God I wasn't on one of those planes." The sheepdogs, the warriors, said, "Dear God, I wish I could have been on one of those planes. Maybe I could have made a difference." When you are truly transformed into a warrior and have truly invested yourself into warriorhood, you want to be there. You want to be able to make a difference.

There is nothing morally superior about the sheepdog, the warrior, but he does have one real advantage. Only one. And that is that he is able to survive and thrive in an environment that destroys 98 percent of the population. There was research conducted a few years ago with individuals convicted of violent crimes. These cons were in prison for serious, predatory crimes of violence: assaults, murders and killing law enforcement officers. The vast majority said that they specifically targeted victims by body language: slumped walk, passive behavior and lack of awareness. They chose their victims like big cats do in Africa, when they select one out of the herd that is least able to protect itself.

Some people may be destined to be sheep and others might be genetically primed to be wolves or sheepdogs. But I believe that most people can choose which one they want to be, and I'm proud to say that more and more Americans are choosing to become sheepdogs.

Seven months after the attack on September 11, 2001, Todd Beamer was honored in his hometown of Cranbury, New Jersey. Todd, as you recall, was the man on Flight 93 over Pennsylvania who called on his cell phone to alert an operator from United Airlines about the hijacking. When he learned of the other three passenger planes that had been used as weapons, Todd dropped his phone and uttered the words, "Let's roll," which authorities believe was a signal to the other passengers to confront the terrorist hijackers. In one hour, a transformation occurred among the passengers - athletes, business people and parents. -- from sheep to sheepdogs and together they fought the wolves, ultimately saving an unknown number of lives on the ground.

There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. - Edmund Burke

Here is the point I like to emphasize, especially to the thousands of police officers and soldiers I speak to each year. In nature the sheep, real sheep, are born as sheep. Sheepdogs are born that way, and so are wolves. They didn't have a choice. But you are not a critter. As a human being, you can be whatever you want to be. It is a conscious, moral decision.

If you want to be a sheep, then you can be a sheep and that is okay, but you must understand the price you pay. When the wolf comes, you and your loved ones are going to die if there is not a sheepdog there to protect you. If you want to be a wolf, you can be one, but the sheepdogs are going to hunt you down and you will never have rest, safety, trust or love. But if you want to be a sheepdog and walk the warrior's path, then you must make a conscious and moral decision every day to dedicate, equip and prepare yourself to thrive in that toxic, corrosive moment when the wolf comes knocking at the door.

For example, many officers carry their weapons in church.? They are well concealed in ankle holsters, shoulder holsters or inside-the-belt holsters tucked into the small of their backs.? Anytime you go to some form of religious service, there is a very good chance that a police officer in your congregation is carrying. You will never know if there is such an individual in your place of worship, until the wolf appears to massacre you and your loved ones.

I was training a group of police officers in Texas, and during the break, one officer asked his friend if he carried his weapon in church. The other cop replied, "I will never be caught without my gun in church." I asked why he felt so strongly about this, and he told me about a cop he knew who was at a church massacre in Ft. Worth, Texas in 1999. In that incident, a mentally deranged individual came into the church and opened fire, gunning down fourteen people. He said that officer believed he could have saved every life that day if he had been carrying his gun. His own son was shot, and all he could do was throw himself on the boy's body and wait to die. That cop looked me in the eye and said, "Do you have any idea how hard it would be to live with yourself after that?"

Some individuals would be horrified if they knew this police officer was carrying a weapon in church. They might call him paranoid and would probably scorn him. Yet these same individuals would be enraged and would call for "heads to roll" if they found out that the airbags in their cars were defective, or that the fire extinguisher and fire sprinklers in their kids' school did not work. They can accept the fact that fires and traffic accidents can happen and that there must be safeguards against them.

Their only response to the wolf, though, is denial, and all too often their response to the sheepdog is scorn and disdain. But the sheepdog quietly asks himself, "Do you have and idea how hard it would be to live with yourself if your loved ones attacked and killed, and you had to stand there helplessly because you were unprepared for that day?"

It is denial that turns people into sheep. Sheep are psychologically destroyed by combat because their only defense is denial, which is counterproductive and destructive, resulting in fear, helplessness and horror when the wolf shows up.

Denial kills you twice. It kills you once, at your moment of truth when you are not physically prepared: you didn't bring your gun, you didn't train. Your only defense was wishful thinking. Hope is not a strategy. Denial kills you a second time because even if you do physically survive, you are psychologically shattered by your fear helplessness and horror at your moment of truth.

Gavin de Becker puts it like this in Fear Less, his superb post-9/11 book, which should be required reading for anyone trying to come to terms with our current world situation: "...denial can be seductive, but it has an insidious side effect. For all the peace of mind deniers think they get by saying it isn't so, the fall they take when faced with new violence is all the more unsettling."

Denial is a save-now-pay-later scheme, a contract written entirely in small print, for in the long run, the denying person knows the truth on some level.

And so the warrior must strive to confront denial in all aspects of his life, and prepare himself for the day when evil comes. If you are warrior who is legally authorized to carry a weapon and you step outside without that weapon, then you become a sheep, pretending that the bad man will not come today. No one can be "on" 24/7, for a lifetime. Everyone needs down time. But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just take a deep breath, and say this to yourself...

"Baa."

This business of being a sheep or a sheep dog is not a yes-no dichotomy. It is not an all-or-nothing, either-or choice. It is a matter of degrees, a continuum. On one end is an abject, head-in-the-sand-sheep and on the other end is the ultimate warrior. Few people exist completely on one end or the other. Most of us live somewhere in between. Since 9-11 almost everyone in America took a step up that continuum, away from denial. The sheep took a few steps toward accepting and appreciating their warriors, and the warriors started taking their job more seriously. The degree to which you move up that continuum, away from sheephood and denial, is the degree to which you and your loved ones will survive, physically and psychologically at your moment of truth.
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I have a permit and do not carry because I am a terrible shot with a pistol. My friends carry and are 10 times worse than me, they will regularly miss a man sized target at 10-15 feet. It's like driving every day even though you can only keep your car in your lane 80% of the time.

If I could carry a rifle, I'd do it.
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Twinsen wrote:I have a permit and do not carry because I am a terrible shot with a pistol. My friends carry and are 10 times worse than me, they will regularly miss a man sized target at 10-15 feet.....
Whoa...... try a SBS :lol:
What amount of a man is composed of his own collection of experiences... and the conclusions that those experiences have allowed him to "know" for certain as "Truth"? :Ick
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Diomed wrote:Well I don't know about y'all, but I'm compensating for my penis.
I heard a joke once, it basically went,

So a lady finds out a guy conceal carries a gun and says "Why do you need a gun are compensating for something?" He said, "Hell Yes I am, if I could kill people at 100 feet with my penis I wouldn't need a gun."
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Twinsen wrote:
RX7-2nr wrote:because you never know when zombies might attack, gotta be prepared at all times.
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Diomed wrote:Well I don't know about y'all, but I'm compensating for my penis.
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Because zombies have larger penises.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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