Looks cool, but what's up with the doofy stock? Just to try to look like an MP-5 stock? I mean, great if you can make a buck on it, but a 6" barreled standard AR with something like a Colt Fiberite N-marked stock won't be any bigger practically speaking, and you wouldn't have any proprietary parts or compromised buffer system. Sure this looks more refined, but still looks as uncomfortable as that HK goofiness from SHOT a couple years ago.
The upper with the swappable hand guard looks cool though. I can see practicality in this respect.
Am I the only one that thinks putting an uncomfortable stock (MP-5 collapsible) on an AR-15 with a shortened buffer system is not a step in the right direction? Hell, the VLTOR A5 is going LONGER in order to increase reliability.
Either way, I hope this is successful, if only to highlight the caliber.
Honeybadger??? Um... can we get some (good) pics of this?
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Yeah, the buttstock does nothing for me but a quick-detach handguard is a cool idea. Nothing wrong with pushing the design envelope as long as you don't try to shove it down everyone's throat as the next big thing.
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HOLY F--k DON'T TELL ME THE SUPPRESSOR THREADS ONTO THAT MECHANISM AND THEREFORE DOESN'T TOUCH THE BARREL THUS ELIMINATING POI SHIFT.JasonM wrote:that's only part of the shenanigans.Ctaylor wrote:Ok I think I figured it out. It's something that allows you to swap out the handguards without disassembling the upper?
Just stabbing in the dark but DAMN that would be awesome.
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Ctaylor wrote:HOLY F--k DON'T TELL ME THE SUPPRESSOR THREADS ONTO THAT MECHANISM AND THEREFORE DOESN'T TOUCH THE BARREL THUS ELIMINATING POI SHIFT.JasonM wrote:that's only part of the shenanigans.Ctaylor wrote:Ok I think I figured it out. It's something that allows you to swap out the handguards without disassembling the upper?
Just stabbing in the dark but DAMN that would be awesome.
Simmer down beavis.
Although, you can get a system like that. I hear it is the "Holy Grail of Silencers". Competitors accept it as "10 years ahead from anyone else".
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAJasonM wrote:
Simmer down beavis.
Although, you can get a system like that. I hear it is the "Holy Grail of Silencers". Competitors accept it as "10 years ahead from anyone else".
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Will the upper and that stock work on a standard lower?
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Well there goes another couple thousand out of next year's income if this comes to fruition.
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Well played sir, well played indeed...JasonM wrote: Simmer down beavis.
Although, you can get a system like that. I hear it is the "Holy Grail of Silencers". Competitors accept it as "10 years ahead from anyone else".
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Simmer down beavis.
Although, you can get a system like that. I hear it is the "Holy Grail of Silencers". Competitors accept it as "10 years ahead from anyone else".
http://www.shootersdepot.com/military-l ... aries.html[/quote]
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http://www.shootersdepot.com/military-l ... aries.html[/quote]
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[/quote]AllenArms wrote:Simmer down beavis.
Although, you can get a system like that. I hear it is the "Holy Grail of Silencers". Competitors accept it as "10 years ahead from anyone else".
http://www.shootersdepot.com/military-l ... aries.html
Does that mean in 10 years all other companies suppressors are going to catastrophically fail as well?
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Does that mean in 10 years all other companies suppressors are going to catastrophically fail as well?AllenArms wrote:Simmer down beavis.Although, you can get a system like that. I hear it is the "Holy Grail of Silencers". Competitors accept it as "10 years ahead from anyone else".
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Nice!
Who would want an MP5SD sized weapon firing both subsonic and supersonic rifle calibre ammunition..
Who would want an MP5SD sized weapon firing both subsonic and supersonic rifle calibre ammunition..
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I dont know about the rest of you, but i would love to see a picture of this with the full length rail? AAC? anyone?
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What AAC can would be rated for use on a 6" 300 BLK barrel? Would you be restricted to subsonic ammo only? That looks like a very handy platform.
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The "Honey Badger" can, or the 762-SDN-6.Selectedmarksman wrote:What AAC can would be rated for use on a 6" 300 BLK barrel? Would you be restricted to subsonic ammo only? That looks like a very handy platform.
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Can you give us OAL of the Honey Badger and the can added length yet?JasonM wrote:The "Honey Badger" can, or the 762-SDN-6.Selectedmarksman wrote:What AAC can would be rated for use on a 6" 300 BLK barrel? Would you be restricted to subsonic ammo only? That looks like a very handy platform.
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whats the terminal ballistics with 5.56 out of a 6" barrel again?JohnnyC wrote:I mean, great if you can make a buck on it, but a 6" barreled standard AR with something like a Colt Fiberite N-marked stock won't be any bigger practically speaking, and you wouldn't have any proprietary parts or compromised buffer system.
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Can we get the difference in length between this with stock closed and a standard receiver extension? I'd like to know how much length you've taken off the back end as compared to a standard length carbine receiver.
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I removed the A3 stock from my MP5 in favor of a plain A2 stock. Can't imagine this one is any more comfortable for me. I like the hand guard and overall idea though. Looking forward to component pricing.
I would think the SDN6 would be the better can to have though. Even if it's 2" longer or a few oz heavier, it's quick attach and more versatile.
Would this 6" 300blk cycle sub and super with no can?
I would think the SDN6 would be the better can to have though. Even if it's 2" longer or a few oz heavier, it's quick attach and more versatile.
Would this 6" 300blk cycle sub and super with no can?
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Charlie, the picture was funny. I'll let you live . . . this time
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if you shoot this nose-to-charging handle, it's got a decent cheek weld/ feel.[/quote]este wrote:I removed the A3 stock from my MP5 in favor of a plain A2 stock. Can't imagine this one is any more comfortable for me.
That's the word on the street.este wrote:Would this 6" 300blk cycle sub and super with no can?
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Not to mention the issues with cycling, the lack of stabilization of the round, combined with a silencer. Bbls below 10" are not typically recommended for silencer use.57fairlane wrote:whats the terminal ballistics with 5.56 out of a 6" barrel again?JohnnyC wrote:I mean, great if you can make a buck on it, but a 6" barreled standard AR with something like a Colt Fiberite N-marked stock won't be any bigger practically speaking, and you wouldn't have any proprietary parts or compromised buffer system.
Plus the Colt CAR stock seems to still be longer than the honeybadger stock. LWRC shortened the buffer and cut about an inch off the front of the stock to shorten their PDW, which is another way of doing it, but both require modification of the recoil mechanism to produce an AR patter weapon as short as this.
A 6" 5.56 AR with a collapsed CAR stock most likely will still be longer than this rifle, and there's no way it has useful terminal ballistics and you couldn't run it with a can.
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My post wasn't load specific. The poor performance of 5.56 in sub 10" barrels is well known. I assumed we were still talking about 300BLK. My question though is what the difference in length is between the honey badger and a standard receiver extension length. Anyone can put a 6" 300 BLK upper on a regular lower. I want to know why these are not essentially the same thing.
This system shortens the buffer system to what I am assuming is shorter than standard, I simply want to know how much and what, if any, are the consequences of doing so. The VLTOR A5 was made longer to increase reliability, this is obviously shorter than the standard carbine recoil setup. I want to know how much shorter when collapsed, and are there repercussions for decreasing length while maintaining a similar operating system.
Unfortunately no one has addressed either of these questions, they should be easy to answer, I'm not sure why they haven't been addressed.
This system shortens the buffer system to what I am assuming is shorter than standard, I simply want to know how much and what, if any, are the consequences of doing so. The VLTOR A5 was made longer to increase reliability, this is obviously shorter than the standard carbine recoil setup. I want to know how much shorter when collapsed, and are there repercussions for decreasing length while maintaining a similar operating system.
Unfortunately no one has addressed either of these questions, they should be easy to answer, I'm not sure why they haven't been addressed.
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OH you know that they will just make 60 of them and tease us so we all will want one, then they will tell us some BS about how a production run wouldn't be made because of the specialty market on this wouldn't be profitable..........
OH WAIT this is AAC not Magpul so what we are seeing will actually be available soon for us great unwashed to purchased.
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