Shot shells with suppressor

nashoba · Post by **nashoba** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:24 am

Is it possible to shoot .22 shotshells through a suppressor without causing damge to baffles? I guess it would matter weather it's on a pistol or rifle since barrel length would cause the shot pattern to spread differently?Anyone ever tried it..and if so how did it work?

NAM · Post by **NAM** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:33 am

I don't know.

With that in mind, i shot a Drozd full auto BB gun with my suppressor on it. Worked ok. Then one of the BB's hit the endcap and left one heck of a crater in it.

So with that in mind, i would recommend against it.

hemi · Post by **hemi** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:40 am

Sounds like a horrible idea to me.

WhiteKnight · Post by **WhiteKnight** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:29 pm

Why would you even want to do this?

NewGunner · Post by **NewGunner** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:52 pm

Thinking about the nature and construction of shotshells, I would vote bad idea.

zach h · Post by **zach h** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:05 pm

I'm gonna say bad idea.
I don't think I want to even try that on my demo crusader. it would be interesting to see how many make it out of the can though.

the real problem lies with the rifiling spinning the shot making it want to fly out from the bore axis.

Wilder · Post by **Wilder** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:08 pm

I think the silencer could get really heavy after a box or two of rat shot

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NewGunner · Post by **NewGunner** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:22 pm

Wilder wrote:I think the silencer could get really heavy after a box or two of rat shot .

Hah!

cyclone72 · Post by **cyclone72** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:29 pm

I would highly recommend against doing it .

Landry308 · Post by **Landry308** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:02 pm

Aim more carefully and use solid bullets

Cortland · Post by **Cortland** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:14 pm

Shot spreads out pretty slowly. You could do some tests to see what the pattern size is say 6" from the muzzle. There may be some distantly remote possibility that you could use a 9mm suppressor with .22 shot. But I doubt it.

tmix · Post by **tmix** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:35 pm

Cortland wrote:Shot spreads out pretty slowly. You could do some tests to see what the pattern size is say 6" from the muzzle. There may be some distantly remote possibility that you could use a 9mm suppressor with .22 shot. But I doubt it.

6" from the muzzle you won't be tell anything.

I wouldn't do it.

Cortland · Post by **Cortland** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:42 pm

6" from the muzzle you won't be tell anything.

How you be figure? If the pattern diameter is sufficiently small at that distance then isn't there some chance that all the shot may clear a suppressor of sufficiently large bore diameter?

nashoba · Post by **nashoba** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:09 am

to test the pattern at about 7in. to see what the diameter of the shot pattern is.My friend has a mossberg .22 smooth bore that has a barrel already theaded for factory choke tubes.For him it's the "cool factor"of owning a suppressed .22 smooth bore.

If testing shows he can do it..fine..if not..then it's no big deal

I do know that rifle holds one hell of a pattern at about 15ft.

Selectedmarksman · Post by **Selectedmarksman** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:44 am

I think this voids your suppressor warranty just considering it.

NewGunner · Post by **NewGunner** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:16 am

There's only one way to find out!

Post AAR and Pics!

tmix · Post by **tmix** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:29 am

Cortland wrote:
6" from the muzzle you won't be tell anything.
How you be figure? If the pattern diameter is sufficiently small at that distance then isn't there some chance that all the shot may clear a suppressor of sufficiently large bore diameter?

The muzzle blast would blow a hole through your target destroying any pattern created.

I guess you could use something made out of plastic. Like a plastic container lid, but it still might blow a bigger hole in it.

Suputin · Post by **Suputin** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:34 pm

Why is it some people seem to have a compulsion to do stupid things with silencers?

nashoba · Post by **nashoba** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:56 am

if you read Al Paulsons silencer book,volume one,page 178,you will see "Shot Cartridges up to .45 caliber work perfectly in the silencer and make noiseless miniature trap shooting possible without disturbance or danger".This is intended for the Maxim silencer and I don't know how the new design suppressors would handle this..but's it's quite obvious it's be done before.

Golovko · Post by **Golovko** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:04 am

tmix wrote:The muzzle blast would blow a hole through your target destroying any pattern created.

I guess you could use something made out of plastic. Like a plastic container lid, but it still might blow a bigger hole in it.

Rumor has it that there are targets so tough and so thick that even the mighty blast of .22 shotshells would fail to penetrate. Just about any chunk of wood ought to do for such a purpose. I'm pretty sure a 2x4 would be able to endure anything a .22 shotshell could dish out.

As for the original poster, there are shotgun silencers that rely on a perforated tube running the entire length of the silencer. It's much like having a ported barrel to reduce velocity, except that in a shotgun silencer the tube is intended to keep the shot cup intact so that the shot cannot strike any baffles--not that modern baffles would likely be used in such a design. For the purposes of suppressing pistol-caliber shotshells, a perforated tube surrounded by wire mesh, steel wool, beads, or whatever other '70's era technology has been used should be just fine for the purpose. Of course this means building the silencer rather than purchasing a current production off-the-shelf silencer.

Since pistol-caliber shotgun shells don't work in precisely the same manner as their true shotgun counterparts (fragile outer shell versus flexible shot cup) the ports on ther perforated tube might need to be angled rearward so that errant shot still gets forced down the bore. Such a design doesn't lend itself well to accuracy and performance, but then again neither do pistol-caliber shotshells.

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