Is There Such a Thing as "Too Much" Suppressor?

[FromSaltWeCome]

1st let's get this out of the way. I made this acct to ask this one question and I'm not sure if I'll stick around. I know quite a bit about guns, however my knowledge of suppressors is minimalistic, but not clueless, if that makes sense.

Now to the point. A friend of mine sent me a link to one of the Chinese Amazon knockoff websites, it had all kinds of stuff that the government doesn't approve of; Glock "switches", Sig M18 FCU's, and the point of this post, solvent traps.

His intentions were pure, he simply couldn't believe what he was seeing and wanted to show me since he knows I'm a big gun guy. Now normally I give anything NFA related a wide berth, especially if it's legally dubious, but there was one trap in particular that made me raise an eyebrow: 6150 Aluminum, M baffles, 2" in diameter X 11.5" long (I don't know how this forum would feel about me linking to it so I won't unless a MOD says I can).

I saw this thing and it got my brain thinking about suppressors in general, I know most cans are engineered to give the best performance possible within set parameters, and this thing seems like a cheat code if you will. I figure a .22 can with these dimensions would be straight up Hollywood quiet, maybe even using it as a dedicated 9mm SBR/PCC can as well, but the longer I thought about it, the more I wondered if it's just too much/too big to actually be worth it as-is.

I know that there's such a thing as too much barrel on a gun, eventually you'll have a barrel that's too long and bullets get stuck in the barrel every time you fire it, but are there such problems with suppressors? Can a can be too much? Like if someone made a .22 can with these dimensions or even larger, could it rob each shot of so much fps that it makes the host gun inaccurate or have other issues that make the can not worth it?


I also wanted to ask about this particular solvent trap. 2" X 11.5" just screams dedicated rifle can to me, magnum rifle (.308, .338, 6.5 Creed, etc.) specifically. If it was all Steel or Titanium, I wouldn't be asking this on here, I imagine a can like that would probably survive belt-fed abuse at least up to a point, but in Aluminum? I don't see it working with 5.56, .308, or any other higher powered rifle platform that would justify the size in my own eyes. Would it blow up? Would the threaded caps shear off from the force? Am I just a noob and it would actually work on 5.56 and up as-is?


I'm sorry in advance if I seem sus, I'm not trying to pull anything, I'm just genuinely curious and I couldn't find the answers I was looking for elsewhere on the web.

[mr fixit]

first, Yes a suppressor can be too big.
second, solvent traps and parts have for all practical purposes been shut down. What you see from China will get intercepted and you will get a note from the ATF.

rimfire cans run about 1" OD, and 6" long. give or take

Centerfire rifle up through the .308 class of cartridges run somewhere around 1.5'x7-8"

the internals determine how well it suppresses. There's a lot that goes into it.

As has been mentioned on this forum in the past, if you want volume you could put a 55 gallon drum on the end of a rifle but it still might be loud.

Aluminum is mostly a no-no in cans with the possible exceptions of rimfire and pistol cans. even when it's ok, other materials have better qualities, you have to decide if it's worth it to you.

[Capt. Link.]

.22 caliber cans have been shrinking for decades. 1960s saw foot long 2.00" cans that weighed several pounds with over 20 baffles. The baffle design sets the limit not the volume. High volume cans sill have there place but when you need wheels to support the can at least my limit has been reached.
Aluminum poises a danger in fatigue failure not strength. The other is erosion and corrosion and the need for protective finishes.
Window shopping is still allowed post the Chinese site.

[FromSaltWeCome]

.22 caliber cans have been shrinking for decades. 1960s saw foot long 2.00" cans that weighed several pounds with over 20 baffles. The baffle design sets the limit not the volume. High volume cans sill have there place but when you need wheels to support the can at least my limit has been reached.
Aluminum poises a danger in fatigue failure not strength. The other is erosion and corrosion and the need for protective finishes.
Window shopping is still allowed post the Chinese site.

Alright, here. Gawk at the object of my curiosity.

https://www.dhgate.com/product/l-11-5-q ... 9817695432


By "Fatigue Failure" I assume you're talking about the aluminum not lasting as long as steel or titanium? Or is this a very specific type of failure you're referencing to and I'm just not aware?

[Capt. Link.]

I like this one: https://www.dhresource.com/webp/m/0x0/f ... hNY057.jpg

Look up aluminum fatigue.

By the way a suppressor will not reduce velocity, in fact they tend to increase it.

[FromSaltWeCome]

I like this one: https://www.dhresource.com/webp/m/0x0/f ... hNY057.jpg

Look up aluminum fatigue.

By the way a suppressor will not reduce velocity, in fact they tend to increase it.

An Aluminum tube with stainless K baffles? Am I wrong to assume you like it for it's use of K baffles?

[Historian]

Again the Good Captain gives sage advice.

As for aluminum for .22 many present day cans
use a high grade and hard anodized.

E.g, "AB Suppressor Little Bird 22 - Tiny Performance!"
<< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTJWY0WVJDQ >>
103 Db pistol.

For 10/22 cut down 5.5" Barrel ... this is a standard:
<< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyBNJ_31uQc >>

DeadAir HD is the plus 6 sigma of .22 suppressors.

How marvelous have cans evolved since Suppressed HD in 1960s.

[Historian]

And whenever the Texas Lawsuit ever wins and Suppressors
are finally removed from NFA control the last must-have
purchase will be the totally integrated Sicario .22.

<< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMEyeUYc06c >>

No matter how old a guy is there is that last one.


Best

[FromSaltWeCome]

Again the Good Captain gives sage advice.

As for aluminum for .22 many present day cans
use a high grade and hard anodized.

E.g, "AB Suppressor Little Bird 22 - Tiny Performance!"
<< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTJWY0WVJDQ >>
103 Db pistol.

For 10/22 cut down 5.5" Barrel ... this is a standard:
<< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyBNJ_31uQc >>

DeadAir HD is the plus 6 sigma of .22 suppressors.

How marvelous have cans evolved since Suppressed HD in 1960s.

5.5" 10/22 sounds like a lot of fun, assuming you can still use it effectively. I have no experience with SBRs, so I assume you could still hit a torso sized target at 100yds with that short of a barrel?