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Conqueror wrote:I will be in love if they sell the 10.5" to civilians - or at least if their distributors/dealers do.
I believe from what I've read that it uses standard AR-15 barrels and that any compitent gunsmith could fit one. To me that is big medicine, there are alot of barrel makers which gives you an excellent selection from materials, lengths, contour and twist rates. But screw the dumb s--t I'm thinking whisper setup on the quick change, the gas system looks simple enough to shorten provided that it might need it at all . I'd like to have one before the 2nd coming though
DEVIL DOC wrote:
I believe from what I've read that it uses standard AR-15 barrels and that any compitent gunsmith could fit one. To me that is big medicine, there are alot of barrel makers which gives you an excellent selection from materials, lengths, contour and twist rates.
This is why I wanted an ACR/Masada over the SCAR. I've got a deposit down on a SCAR, but like the PS90 CMMG will be the only supplier of short barrels. If the ACR comes to market I would get my deposit back and go with it.
Yeah it is, but the stock is more durable than the SCAR.
Definitely a nice piece and I'd love to own one as well. If I had one suggestion to make it would be for a little more modularity in ergonomic places, especially the grip. But they did an outstanding job with the controls. And, the fact that it uses AR15 barrels is ingenious.
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DEVIL DOC wrote:
I believe from what I've read that it uses standard AR-15 barrels and that any compitent gunsmith could fit one. To me that is big medicine, there are alot of barrel makers which gives you an excellent selection from materials, lengths, contour and twist rates.
This is why I wanted an ACR/Masada over the SCAR. I've got a deposit down on a SCAR, but like the PS90 CMMG will be the only supplier of short barrels. If the ACR comes to market I would get my deposit back and go with it.
No s--t right, the charging handle and stock are "almost" instant deal breakers not to mention the baby s--t brown color . The ACR is/was supposed to be offered in three colors and three configurations. I feel butt raped thinking about the whole deal, maybe remington will undue the knots of deception, butt hurtness and longing...........maybe
I hope this does reach us, but read the last sentense in the ad. "Made in USA for GOVERNMENT SALES by the oldest name in firearms and ammunition. That doesn't sound good.
J Krammes wrote:I hope this does reach us, but read the last sentense in the ad. "Made in USA for GOVERNMENT SALES by the oldest name in firearms and ammunition. That doesn't sound good.
Jeremy
Remington is working the military sales angle, Bushmaster is pushing civilian sales.
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J Krammes wrote:I hope this does reach us, but read the last sentense in the ad. "Made in USA for GOVERNMENT SALES by the oldest name in firearms and ammunition. That doesn't sound good.
Jeremy
Remington is working the military sales angle, Bushmaster is pushing civilian sales.
How do you know this? Did you read this somewhere? They way I looked at it is Remington would help keep them afloat while Bushmaster is focusing on trying to win a contract. Remington the name alone reaches a larger consumer base, picture "johny bolt-action" going into cabelas grabbing some primers for the firearm sales dept (provided they have them or not) and asking for the new up to date product catalog and noticing something new in the center spread multi-caliber yada-yada. Thats my hopes as I has never been disappointed with their quality let alone performance.
J Krammes wrote:I hope this does reach us, but read the last sentense in the ad. "Made in USA for GOVERNMENT SALES by the oldest name in firearms and ammunition. That doesn't sound good.
Jeremy
Remington is working the military sales angle, Bushmaster is pushing civilian sales.
How do you know this? Did you read this somewhere? They way I looked at it is Remington would help keep them afloat while Bushmaster is focusing on trying to win a contract. Remington the name alone reaches a larger consumer base, picture "johny bolt-action" going into cabelas grabbing some primers for the firearm sales dept (provided they have them or not) and asking for the new up to date product catalog and noticing something new in the center spread multi-caliber yada-yada. Thats my hopes as I has never been disappointed with their quality let alone performance.
I emailed Remington about the ACR and one of the Military Products Division Reps told me the same thing. He also said the Bushmaster version will not be called the ACR.
Get this, I just talked to a customer service agent at bushmaster and he said hopefully in the next few months. He said they where testing finishes at this point for the military variant's barrels so I asked him about the AR barrel compatibilty and he said the barrel he was holding 3 hours ago was different but that an AR barrel could easliy be configured for use in the weapons system. I then asked him about remingtons involvement and he said it was new news to him, last he heard remington had nothing to due with the project. He said the ACR still needs to be scaled to a civilain configuration which won't take long and soon after that available, I posed the question that I was thinking of buying a SCAR but I wanted an ACR would he suggest I wait for it b/c it is nearly finished and he said yes. He stated it is not a question of "if" more of when which should be soon. It is going to be made for the public by bushmaster.
DEVIL DOC wrote:Get this, I just talked to a customer service agent at bushmaster and he said hopefully in the next few months. He said they where testing finishes at this point for the military variant's barrels so I asked him about the AR barrel compatibilty and he said the barrel he was holding 3 hours ago was different but that an AR barrel could easliy be configured for use in the weapons system. I then asked him about remingtons involvement and he said it was new news to him, last he heard remington had nothing to due with the project. He said the ACR still needs to be scaled to a civilain configuration which won't take long and soon after that available, I posed the question that I was thinking of buying a SCAR but I wanted an ACR would he suggest I wait for it b/c it is nearly finished and he said yes. He stated it is not a question of "if" more of when which should be soon. It is going to be made for the public by bushmaster.
That's funny because I also asked someone from Bushmaster about the Remington version and he said he didn't know anything about it.
J Krammes wrote:"Made in USA for GOVERNMENT SALES by the oldest name in firearms and ammunition.
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DEVIL DOC wrote:Get this, I just talked to a customer service agent at bushmaster and he said hopefully in the next few months. He said they where testing finishes at this point for the military variant's barrels so I asked him about the AR barrel compatibilty and he said the barrel he was holding 3 hours ago was different but that an AR barrel could easliy be configured for use in the weapons system. I then asked him about remingtons involvement and he said it was new news to him, last he heard remington had nothing to due with the project. He said the ACR still needs to be scaled to a civilain configuration which won't take long and soon after that available, I posed the question that I was thinking of buying a SCAR but I wanted an ACR would he suggest I wait for it b/c it is nearly finished and he said yes. He stated it is not a question of "if" more of when which should be soon. It is going to be made for the public by bushmaster.
That's funny because I also asked someone from Bushmaster about the Remington version and he said he didn't know anything about it.
I guess they haven't seen the ad yet.
It would be great if anyone can come up with any official info on civilian availability of either the Remington or BM version. I've funds set aside for a SCAR when it finally gets to my dealer and depending on price and timeline I'd rather go with this design.
DEVIL DOC wrote:Get this, I just talked to a customer service agent at bushmaster and he said hopefully in the next few months. He said they where testing finishes at this point for the military variant's barrels so I asked him about the AR barrel compatibilty and he said the barrel he was holding 3 hours ago was different but that an AR barrel could easliy be configured for use in the weapons system. I then asked him about remingtons involvement and he said it was new news to him, last he heard remington had nothing to due with the project. He said the ACR still needs to be scaled to a civilain configuration which won't take long and soon after that available, I posed the question that I was thinking of buying a SCAR but I wanted an ACR would he suggest I wait for it b/c it is nearly finished and he said yes. He stated it is not a question of "if" more of when which should be soon. It is going to be made for the public by bushmaster.
That's funny because I also asked someone from Bushmaster about the Remington version and he said he didn't know anything about it.
I guess they haven't seen the ad yet.
It would be great if anyone can come up with any official info on civilian availability of either the Remington or BM version. I've funds set aside for a SCAR when it finally gets to my dealer and depending on price and timeline I'd rather go with this design.
I was hinted to near the end of this year but it is not a super certain thing, get the SCAR shoot the dog-doo out of it then sell it on Gun broker for like 18k All seriousness just get it, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
That's funny because I also asked someone from Bushmaster about the Remington version and he said he didn't know anything about it.
I guess they haven't seen the ad yet.
It would be great if anyone can come up with any official info on civilian availability of either the Remington or BM version. I've funds set aside for a SCAR when it finally gets to my dealer and depending on price and timeline I'd rather go with this design.
I was hinted to near the end of this year but it is not a super certain thing, get the SCAR shoot the dog-doo out of it then sell it on Gun broker for like 18k All seriousness just get it, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
That's probably the best advice, and the reason I dropped the deposit on the SCAR when it became evident that the ACR might never happen.
. I'd like to have one before the 2nd coming though 
. The ACR is/was supposed to be offered in three colors and three configurations. I feel butt raped thinking about the whole deal, maybe remington will undue the knots of deception, butt hurtness and longing...........maybe 
