Trust times?

okw · Post by **okw** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:30 pm

Diomed wrote:
okw wrote:
frank207 wrote:1. NFA Item: SBR
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Mailed: 03/04/09
5. Check Cashed: 03/10/09
6. Pending Date: N/A
7. Approved: 06/09/09
8. Form Received: 06/12/09
9. Examiner: N Flanigan/ Rob Howard
10. letter in trust W
That's interesting ... my trust is also a "W" and I got Shipman. Would that be because mine is for a silencer and yours is an SBR?

BTW, pending on May 8 ... still waiting patiently.
Are you sure you're basing your conclusions on correct data? Specifically, trusts are treated the same as a business entity when examiners are assigned. The "Walter Mitty Living Trust" would be assigned to the examiner for "W", the same way "Automatic Baby-killing Death Machines Inc." would be assigned to "A". This is opposed to John Smith making something on a Form 1, where the examiner would be the one for "S".

Yes, in my case anyway, the trust name starts with a "W".

Diomed · Post by **Diomed** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:59 am

Fudmottin wrote:Only 26 examiners?

I think there are ten now.

Fudmottin · Post by **Fudmottin** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:28 am

I wonder what the average number of transfer requests made per month is.

When doing a transfer to a trust, will the examiner read the entire trust each time? They must be wanting the trust rather than just the declaration for a reason. It certainly increases the workload.

J Krammes · Post by **J Krammes** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:24 pm

I went pending on 4/9. I would have had the suppressor this past Saturday 6/13 if I had not forgot to put my address on the second page... I should have it next week.

Snook, examiner.

Jeremy

Omega_556 · Post by **Omega_556** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:30 pm

Fudmottin wrote:When doing a transfer to a trust, will the examiner read the entire trust each time? They must be wanting the trust rather than just the declaration for a reason. It certainly increases the workload.

I doubt the examiners are reading the trust documents. They are either having an attorney review them, which I doubt, or they are just keeping them on file.

Diomed · Post by **Diomed** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:19 am

Fudmottin wrote:I wonder what the average number of transfer requests made per month is.

I don't have my copy of the numbers here, but it's quite large. They'll break a million this year if they haven't already.

When doing a transfer to a trust, will the examiner read the entire trust each time? They must be wanting the trust rather than just the declaration for a reason. It certainly increases the workload.

Mention has been made of a checklist for trusts. I don't know if that's still how they do it or if they all go through their legal office now. I doubt it's much of change in terms of time and effort versus processing an individual application from the examiner's perspective. Probably depends on whether the fingerprint check is the only background check that's done.

Fudmottin · Post by **Fudmottin** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:39 pm

Fingerprint check? I thought trusts didn't need those.

J Krammes · Post by **J Krammes** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:45 pm

Fudmottin wrote:Fingerprint check? I thought trusts didn't need those.

They don't...

Jeremy

Diomed · Post by **Diomed** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:25 am

I was referring to the processing of individual applications then, not trusts.

Fudmottin · Post by **Fudmottin** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:31 pm

Gotcha. Thanks.

TOOL1075 · Post by **TOOL1075** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:05 am

Transferee: Trust
Item: SWR Trident

Ordered Suppressor from Out of State Dealer: 06-JAN-2009
Arrives from Manufacturer to Out of State Dealer: ??-FEB-2009
Form 3 to Local Dealer: 10-FEB-2009
Arrived at Local Dealer: 03-MAR-2009
Form 4 Delivered to ATF: 12-MAR-2009
Check Cashed: 12-MAR-2009
Pending: 21-APR-2009
Examiner: Andrew Ashton
Approved: 17-JUN-2009
Form Received at Dealer: 20-JUN-2009

HELL YEAH!

edit:

Holy crap, the Form 4 already got to my dealer on Saturday. I'm gonna pick up my can today!

lol talk about a long wait...

okw · Post by **okw** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:48 pm

NFA Item: Silencer
Form Type: Form 1 (x2)
Transfer Type: Trust
Mailed: 03-14-09
Check Cashed: 03-24-09
Pending Date: 05-08-09
Approved: 06-14-09
Form Received: 06-25-09
Examiner: D Henson

I haven't had time to call and check on them since June 4 so it was a complete surprise when I received the forms today!!

Despite being told a month ago that my examiner was Shipman, my forms were signed (stamped, actually) by Henson.

Let the fun begin!!

Diomed · Post by **Diomed** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:33 am

I keep forgetting to do this.

1. NFA Item(s): One silencer
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Trust
4. Form 4 Sent: ????
5. Check Cashed: 24 February 2009
6. Pending Date: 15 April 2009
7. Approved Date: 10 June 2009
8. Form 4 Received: 16 June 2009
9. Transferor/Maker Letter: T
10. Examiner Name: Andrew Ashton, countersigned by Rob Howard
11. Notes: Transferred on 6/23. No asset schedule was submitted.

silent_grizz · Post by **silent_grizz** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:09 pm

Anyone else having exceptionally long pending times. I've ben pending on a AOW since May 23rd.

jhrgr · Post by **jhrgr** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:56 am

silent_grizz wrote:Anyone else having exceptionally long pending times. I've ben pending on a AOW since May 23rd.

Yep... been pending since May 8 on 3 Form 4's.

seacoastnh · Post by **seacoastnh** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:51 pm

1. NFA Item: integrally suppressed barrel
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Mailed: 04/28/09
5. Check Cashed: 05/05/09
6. Pending Date:
7. Approved: 07/20/09
8. Form Received: 7/28/09
9. Examiner: Ashton/Howard

Submitted certificate of trustee only, no declaration of trust submitted, no inventory submitted.

silent_grizz · Post by **silent_grizz** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:05 pm

[quote="silent_grizz"][quote="silent_grizz"]

Form 4 Trust
Item: Serbu AOW
Check Mailed: 3/27/09
Check Cashed: 4/15/09
Pending:5-27-09
Approved: July 30

It's about time...

prdubi · Post by **prdubi** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:04 pm

form 4 trust SBR (Quicken willmaker examined and blessed by a lawyer)
Sent may 3rd,
checked cashed may 12th
Pending May 26th
still pending...

don't know examiners name

zepheris.HK · Post by **zepheris.HK** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:41 pm

1. NFA Item: Silencer
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Mailed: 05/13/09
5. Check Cashed: 05/19/09
6. Pending Date: 07/07/09
7. Approved: 07/27/09
8. Form Received: 07/31/09

continuity · Post by **continuity** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:07 pm

silent_grizz wrote:Anyone else having exceptionally long pending times. I've ben pending on a AOW since May 23rd.

Been pending on a personal Form 1 since May 13. Last call advised awaiting fingerprint info from FBI.

silent_grizz · Post by **silent_grizz** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:30 pm

continuity wrote:
silent_grizz wrote:Anyone else having exceptionally long pending times. I've ben pending on a AOW since May 23rd.
Been pending on a personal Form 1 since May 13. Last call advised awaiting fingerprint info from FBI.

That sucks... I have heard prints are taking forever. I like not dealing with that using the trust.

jhrgr · Post by **jhrgr** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:27 am

zepheris.HK wrote:1. NFA Item: Silencer
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Mailed: 05/13/09
5. Check Cashed: 05/19/09
6. Pending Date: 07/07/09
7. Approved: 07/27/09
8. Form Received: 07/31/09

WOW, This has got to be a record these days...

zepheris.HK · Post by **zepheris.HK** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:18 pm

jhrgr wrote:
zepheris.HK wrote:1. NFA Item: Silencer
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Mailed: 05/13/09
5. Check Cashed: 05/19/09
6. Pending Date: 07/07/09
7. Approved: 07/27/09
8. Form Received: 07/31/09
WOW, This has got to be a record these days...

Yea, I was quite surprised the F4 was approved so quickly. It took YHM over 5 months just to get that suppressor to my dealer.

silent_grizz · Post by **silent_grizz** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:33 pm

Stamp arrived today!

Form 4 Trust
Item: Serbu AOW
Check Mailed: 3/27/09
Check Cashed: 4/15/09
Pending:5-27-09
Approved: 7-30-09
Stamp at Dealer: 8-5-09

122 days door to door...

I went out and shot this thing and HELL YEAH nobody should be without one!

wwboater · Post by **wwboater** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:37 pm

1. NFA Item: SBR PS90
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transfer Type: Trust
4. Mailed: 07/01/09
5. Check Cashed: 07/10/09
6. Pending Date:8/7/09
7. Approved:
8. Form Received:
9. Examiner: Ashton

Maybe i'll have it for the Silencer Shoot........

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