AWC vs. AAC Supressors

[flyshooter007001]

Sorry, I thought of mentioning that, but forgot. Yes, threaded is ideal. However, if there is a can that is only available in QD then it may be a viable option.

[Bowen1911]

Hilarious Bowen1911........... Yea, I'm definitely not a "troll". I'm simply trying to get other peoples opinions on different manufacturers.

Oh and Bowen 1911, since your so quick to judge, what company makes best suppressors in your opinion? And why do you think so?

You posted the same question in 2 different forums, on the same site- sounds like trolling to me

AWC also "likes" to put "quotations" around cool "phrases" like "full auto" and "quick detach." Since there have been more than one AWC employees posing as satisfied customers or potential buyers over here, I am sure "you" could see why there is a little skepticism.

I made my own- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoKuhDQxMkA. Its quieter than the tactical solutions muzzle cans (they were the only ones I have been able to compare it to)

and I will be making another silencer when I get out for the semester and actually have time to do some machining.


AWC claims to have a 30 caliber suppressor that makes it so you can't hear the sonic crack from supersonic bullet flight- the only way to do this is to make a suppressor so shitty that you just can't hear it over the sound of the muzzle blast.

I am not AAC fanboy by any means, but they have better suppressors in all aspects.

There- thats my input

[flyshooter007001]

You posted the same question in 2 different forums, on the same site- sounds like trolling to me

Oh ok... I see. Your the almighty, self appointed trolling judge. Im sorry, maybe I was trying to get a response from a broader spectrum of people using professionally made suppressors.

AWC also "likes" to put "quotations" around cool "phrases" like "full auto" and "quick detach." Since there have been more than one AWC employees posing as satisfied customers or potential buyers over here, I am sure "you" could see why there is a little skepticism.

It sure doesn't seem like I'm posting my opinions about one manufacturer more than another.

I made my own- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoKuhDQxMkA. Its quieter than the tactical solutions muzzle cans (they were the only ones I have been able to compare it to)

and I will be making another silencer when I get out for the semester and actually have time to do some machining.

Wow, that's must be why you think you can judge.... Because you made your own suppressor... In .22... Ok, your "cool."

There- thats my input

Gee, thanks for your input. Very helpful... Not.

[Wicked]

Sounds like you would be very well served by any number of .30 caliber thread-on suppressors. Just shoot the smaller stuff right through it. Only a very slight difference in reduction than with a dedicated smaller caliber suppressor. These are a bunch of .30 thread-on suppressors that first come to mind, but not every one, and in no particular order. Some a bit better and/or more expensive than others, but none of these are junk. Good ones to start asking about anyway. Titanium is pretty much for bolt gun only applications.

SWR Omega - MSRP $795 - http://www.swrmfg.com/Rifle-Suppressors ... ga-30.html

AAC Cyclone - MSRP $850 - http://www.advanced-armament.com/product.aspx?pid=209

AAC Cyclone K - MSRP $795 - http://www.advanced-armament.com/product.aspx?pid=211

Gemtech HVT THD - MSRP $750 - http://www.gem-tech.com/store/pc/viewPr ... ategory=10

Gemtech SandStorm Ti - MSRP $1175 - http://www.gem-tech.com/store/pc/viewPr ... ategory=10

OPS, Inc 12th Model - MSRP - $950 + $180 mount - http://www.opsinc.us/product.php@prodId ... 0sr25.html

Surfire - N/A No thread-on models available

Liberty Suppressors Freedom - MSRP $830 - http://www.libertycans.net/freedom.html

Jet Suppressors Ti - Nooooooo, RUN AWAY

Shark Suppressors Ti - MSRP $1350 - http://www.sharksuppressors.com/Product.aspx?id=1

Yankee Hill Machine Phantom #3400 SS - MSRP $650 - http://www.yhm.net/store/phantom762.html

Coastal Gun LRT - MSRP $500 - http://coastalgun.com/products/lrt/

SRT Arms Shadow - $UNK - http://www.srtarms.com/30can.htm

[m1garand30064]

If you want to use it across multiple calibers you will want to shy towards the QD can. It is a lot easier to move a can from gun to gun by mounting the QD mounts on them.

I have a 762SD and I use it on a .308 bolt gun, a .308 AR, two AR-15's an M1a and an HK 91. Just be sure to get the new 51T version!

[Wicked]

Agreed, muzzle threading will be an issue - unless you want to put 5/8-24 threads on every rifle you own!

[flyshooter007001]

Thanks a ton Wicked!!!!!!! I'll go through all the choices and if I have questions I'll be sure to ask.

[wragarand]

[ThePatriot]

As a whole AAC is better, but that is a really general question.

[GlocksInMySocks]

As a whole AAC is better, but that is a really general question.

AAC does feel better on the whole

[sigman226]

I looked at the Pilot but bought the Spectre instead.

[flyshooter007001]

Ok, here are the cans I am most interested in:

AAC 300-SD: http://www.advanced-armament.com/product.aspx?pid=870
AAC CYCLONE-K: http://www.advanced-armament.com/product.aspx?pid=211
AAC 762-SD: http://www.advanced-armament.com/product.aspx?pid=194
AAC CYCLONE: http://www.advanced-armament.com/product.aspx?pid=209
AAC 762-SDN-6: http://www.advanced-armament.com/product.aspx?pid=865
Gemtech Sandstorm: http://www.gem-tech.com/store/pc/viewPr ... ategory=10
Gemtech HVT-THD: http://www.gem-tech.com/store/pc/viewPr ... ategory=10
Yankee Hill Phantom (7.62): (SS version) http://www.yhm.net/store/phantom762.html
(Ti version) http://www.yhm.net/store/Tiphantom762.html

Which would be the best for bolt rifle precision shooting with multiple calibers under .308 with barrel lengths over 20"? Which would also be the most durable if I wanted to also use a AR platform and do speed drills with high volume and ROF? I recently read a post from JasonAAC that Titanium cans are best suited for bolt only, and using them on semis could cause damage. He also mentioned that the AAC 762-SDN-6 works best on rifle under 20" barrel length, whereas the AAC 762-SD is quieter on barrels above 20".

HELP ME MAKE UP MY MIND!! There are so many choices, and without access to testing one, its so hard to pick one over another.

[Bowen1911]

Ok, your "cool."

Very helpful... Not.

Way to come off like an ass after 10 posts here.

Your list has no AWC cans... what happened?

I said that AAC was better- I answered your question- You're welcome.

[Fairbanksan]

AAC makes a better can than AWC. They are not in the same league, generally speaking. However, few, if any, 9mm sub-gun cans on the market perform as well as AWC's MK9. I'm waiting on a Thompson Machine SG to compare. AAC doesn't make anything to compete with the MK9.

[JasonAAC]

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PM'd you flyshooter

[diablito]

I never said free. Make an offer. I will throw in a free pair of ear plugs to give it the illusion of being quiet.

I'll trade you for my Prodigy... looks like we share the same love for our respective cans... and I'll even throw in the new take down tool made by st33ve0 (you'll need it after 5 rounds).

btw: which model amphibian do you have?

[itsAlwaysLefthanded]

wow,

im offended. i never thought i would look at my elders and say "shut the front door" but......SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!

i dont know anything but this. i have a 10/22 with an intergral suppressor made by AWC and that dang gun sounds like a pellet gun. when i got the gun i walked outside in my suburban neighborhood while my neighbor was outside and rapped off like 30 rounds. The neighbor didnt even look up from doing his yard work.
I dont give a crap if its my grandpa's technology or "the suppressor of the future" AWC is quiet and so far, a crap load more dependable than a GEMTECH for sure.

that is my 2 pennies

[will ballard]

Ok I live here in Phoenix and visited them (AWC) in person. I walked in to see two teenagers answering the phone ( should not be able to answer your questions). Paper brochures all over the floor , yes i had to walk on them . Guns were leaning against the wall and laying on the floor and not one or two but twenty to thirty guns no racks. The machine shop was cleaner then the office. I would not recommend them to anybody.

I do own a AAC 7.62SD and a AAC SPR/M4 and I`m very satisfied.

[JasonAAC]

that is my 2 pennies

Your 2 pennies are worthless without context-

Have you taken apart your can?
How much has it been shot?
Have you shot it next to any other manufacturers' integral 22s?
Have you used AWC pistol cans?
Have you used other manufacturer's pistol cans?
Have you used AWC pistol cans next to other manufacturer's pistol cans?
Have you used AWC rifle cans?
Have you used other manufacturer's rifle cans?
Have you used AWC rifle cans next to other manufacturer's rifle cans?

It is not difficult to make a quiet .22 integral rifle.

I would buy Gemtech over AWC any day of the week with my own money.

[diablito]

I would buy Gemtech over AWC any day of the week with my own money.

I own both said integrals... side by side comparison (in Miami) AWC is quieter no matter what ammo is fired. Gem is certainly lighter but who the f**k cares about a few ounces. Both cool, both quiet both will render hrs/days/yrs of fun.

[itsAlwaysLefthanded]

seeing how we are making things up now, let me come up with a doozey.......

i shot my AWC against EVERY SUPPRESSOR EVER MADE just like you obviously have, and its quieter.

BACK TO REALITY
i dont need to set it against other manufacturers cans, like you obviously do, seeing how you are asking me have i done it.

second, when i get a dang BB gun, a Poweline 880 from Wal-mart, and fire it at the same time against my intergral suppressor and it sounds quieter than the BB gun, when using subsonic ammo i think its quiet enough.

but hey maybe not, i bow to the extreme knowledge you must possess......
btw i have fired approximately 3000 rounds through it and cleaned it twice with WD-40.

[JasonAAC]

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Slow down, no need to get so exercised, I'm simply asking for your frame of reference.

I'm saying that if you live in a vacuum and have a particular product, then that product is 'the best'.

If like you say, it is "quiet enough", then that's great, I'm just trying to find out what context your opinion is based in.

Not sure what you say I made up?

Yes, I have shot many many different gun and can combinations from many different manufacturers. There are so many factors that contribute to the relative quality of a particular can- size, weight, sound performance, materials, finish, ease of maintenance, cost, etc.

Again, I'm glad you like your integral rimfire rifle, and if anyone is looking for an integral rimfire rifle, consider AWC, but their pistol and rifle stuff is years behind Gemtech, AAC, Silencerco, Knight's, OPS, Surefire, even some of the smaller manufacturers like Thompson, Liberty, etc.

Diabolito- thanks for the report- And I agree with you about a few ounces in general.

[diablito]

I never said free. Make an offer. I will throw in a free pair of ear plugs to give it the illusion of being quiet.

I'll trade you for my Prodigy... looks like we share the same love for our respective cans... and I'll even throw in the new take down tool made by st33ve0 (you'll need it after 5 rounds).

btw: which model amphibian do you have?

WELL??? I just received the prodigy take down tool... works like a dream!! so I'll reiterate... AAC prodigy with take down tool for your AWC amphibian... straight up... deal???

[66427vette]

I am not looking for another 22 can at the moment I have 6 .22 cans currently. Amphibian s is the one I have . Plus it wouldbe a double tax transfer. Right?? Would trade for sig 226 supp. series you pay all taxes and dealer fees.



[img] It has been sitting on the reloading bench shelf for the past year and half unmoved.

[diablito]

you pay all taxes and dealer fees.

PASS!! but thanks for the offer... I'll keep the prodigy as a cool paper weight... always starts up a cool conversation!!